Subj : File, file; who's got the
To   : Dale Ross
From : Jack Yates
Date : Mon Sep 10 2001 11:38 am

 DR> Nope I am under NO obligation to advise my RC on ANY RIN leaving this
 DR> network OR on any other issue concerning FidoNet. There are no RINs
 DR> that connect to me. _IF_ I had an RIN that pulled everything from me
 DR> and I knew that they did not have a connection to the RC _THEN_ I
 DR> would advise the RC.

There's this thing in Fidonet that I like to refer to as "Spirit of
Cooperation".  I could be madder'n'hell at the RC but I would still netmail him
if I knew a node other than one in my network was down due to a hardware
failure and did not intend to rebuild and return.  It's in the best interest of
the network as a whole to do so.

This includes *any* RC, not just the R18C.


 DR> Concerning the demonstration of Ross doing his job or not. On that
 DR> issue I do not care. I have no opinion on how he does his job. I care
 DR> not what happens in Region 18. I am in Region 18 because my NET is in
 DR> Region 18. That is the only thing concerning Region 18 that I care
 DR> about. Region 18 could die tomorrow and it would not faze me. As long
 DR> as NET379 is still around I am happy. My NET comes above ANY other
 DR> part of FidoNet. I would be happy if we did away with Regions and
 DR> Zones and just had Nets. So it matters little to me if Ross does a
 DR> good job or a bad job. Trust me on that. I know that if Ross did a bad
 DR> job and was replaced he would probably NOT be replaced with anything
 DR> better, hell probably worse. So I gain nothing by making him look good
 DR> OR bad.

Dale, you give me reason to wonder if this feeling is because your RC is the
sumbidge that gathered up his downlinks and defected to the NAB, and your ZC
has, by inference, refused to recognize IRNROUTE as the Official Fidonet
Echomail-routed Netmail chart, and possibly for other reasons that need not be
gone into here because it really doesn't matter *why* you're pissed, just that
you are.  Because of this animosity, perhaps you feel that Fidonet would be
better off without these positions and so you would see the positions
eliminated, not the region/zone tiers.  I suppose if your NC gets on your case
over something next week you'll want to be doing away with the network and
just have nodes?

Hm..How about eliminating the tier hiearchy in the Z1B?

Oh.  You're in the top level there; scratch that idea.


Your last sentence speaks volumes.  May we, the members of Region 18,
for whom you have little or no regard, expect that you will do nothing that
does not afford you personal gain?  It looks to me like Dale's for Dale, and
damn everyone else.  Of course, I could be wrong.

I must admit, however, that I admire your honesty.




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