Subj : Remember To : Dale Ross From : Ross Cassell Date : Fri Aug 24 2001 11:12 am Hello Dale! 24 Aug 01 16:46, you wrote to Matt Bedynek: >> If Foxy had hatched a routing file into BACKBONE while I was here I >> wouldn't have cared. Can't speak for anyone else. DR> The issue was that Foxy was NOT a member of ANY distribution system DR> and by definition did not have hatching privileges in that area. DR> Further, as I recall her uplink never consulted with anyone on that DR> issue. IRNROUTE is not hatched by the Routing Committee into BACKBONE DR> because they do not have hatching privileges in that area. DR> There are some very distinct differences between the two situations: DR> In the first situation; the hatching occurred without any consultation DR> of the Z1B member Hubs. How wrong your facts are in this case... Foxy had continued the tradition or rather precedent used by her predecessor and was given hatching privileges accordingly in BACKBONE for only her list. DR> In the first situation, without consultation the Z1B never had the DR> opportunity to address adopting the file. Steve Byers was only a Tier2 hub all the way through his tenure as a ZLC, the Z1B never took up the issue of adopting _any_ list. In fact I recall you voicing along with myself and John, the problems that could develop with placing the neutrality of any list in question. DR> The first situation a system that was NOT a member of a Distribution DR> System hatched the file. In the second situation a member of the Z1B DR> hatches the file. Actually it was Mark Lewis who brought up the fact that routelist belonged elsewhere, but it was not brought to Z1B_COORD or elsewhere for any sort of official Z1B "objection".. In fact there was little official discussion about it. Foxy merely complied and her hatching privs to BACKBONE were rescinded and then enabled for Z1_REC. Mark Lewis and David Calafrancesco, feel free to confirm this? Foxy didnt know, she merely was continuing the practice which John and I helped throw into her lap. == Ross http://www.the-estar.com:8080 ross@the-estar.com or rcassell@home.com ICQ = 5305939 --- GoldED/W32 3.0.1 * Origin: The Eastern Star [Mail Hub] - 864.573.7069 (1:18/500) .