Subj : Your meshing To : Dale Ross From : Ross Cassell Date : Sat May 19 2001 10:30 am Hello Dale! 19 May 01 16:10, you wrote to me: >> What the fuck does 273/416 have to do with YOU failing to make sure >> you were TOSSING WCCODE to 106/1? DR> I toss WCCODE to 106/1. Have been since the day we connected. I used DR> it to prove a point about your ignorance. Like your ignorance about how a mesh is supposed to work, when you as a tier2 under me connected to 106/1 and proclaimed you were meshed, when in fact that I had no link to 106/1 at that time and that 106/1 at that time was a tier2 under John, that type of ignorance? and in Fidonet time this wasnt long ago.. You forget Dale, I can dredge up the past with the best of them and this little shoot out we are having now, I _did_not_ start, you did.. Remember I used netmail bubba because it was more tactful. >> dupe type, a few "Dale and John" acting like GOD is gonna die >> messages later and I realized that John had switched the topic a bit >> or was referencing something else all told. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DR> BALONEY. John NEVER switched the topic. The topic was dupes. He asked DR> you since you were boasting about catching Jack's dupes when would you DR> start catching those dupes. The problem had existed for a long time. DR> John posted an EXAMPLE message to you. In several messages you went on DR> about how you had done this and that to your squish message base. See the part above the ^^^^. I do admit it took a few "Dale and John acting like GOD was gonna die" messages before I caught on.. Aside from the fact that I wasnt boasting but rather alleviating Jacks concerns regarding his issue. DR> We explained what the problem was and then you went from a corrupted DR> message base to a dupe loop issue. It was neither. and all this relates to what I politely netmailed you about last night in what way? Is this how you approach trap issues to other nodes? DR> pkts from you and John and I only ran the tests against 106/2000 and DR> my non-meshed peers. Yes it was a stupid move. Just as soon as I took DR> your system out of the trusted mode BAM! I saw the junk that John was DR> talking about. and whose fault was that, I always exempted specific echoes, not entire nodes. >> and here again is my NOBOGUS.CFG: DR> And you expect that to catch dupes... *I* expect it to catch what I want it to catch and it does. *I* do not expect it to catch what *YOU* think it should catch, there is a difference. *I* run NB for a narrow purpose, not because of Dales Law/ >> (Kludge = 'Path: 273/416 ') and WrongMSGID >> >> >> No if you look at the 3rd from bottom line, this handles 273/416 >> real nicely. DR> 273/416 doesn't exist in my config anywhere and I catch the dupes from DR> that system and will let anything that happens to be good by. I will DR> also stop dupes from any other system that does the same thing. And DR> yes there are a couple of other system out there that do the same DR> thing. Of course you will never know because you never stop them. DR> Someone is going to have to tell you so that you can add that node DR> into your config. Your problem is that your peers pass these dupes DR> around left and right. I caught more of the dupes that are EXACTLY DR> like the 273/416 dupes. They came from one of your peers. I bet you DR> passed those when they hit your system and you know nothing about DR> them. DR> And look out if some system out there dumps a bunch of them on us like DR> what has happened in the past. You will never catch them. and will GOD die? >> I admit now and I admitted then, that I had relaxed NB at and prior >> to that time and alot of Jerdons stuff got through. DR> A lot of? How about ALL of them. Did GOD die? DR> But it looks like we have finally gotten that one under control as DR> far as the Z1B is concerned. Only if Todd and Steve are running NB, are they? Now pray tell me, what all this had to do with me informing you of an issue, that if you believed it to be in error or yourself powerless to correct, that left you with the choice to disregard the message, why all this? == Ross http://www.the-estar.com:8080 ross@the-estar.com or rcassell@home.com ICQ = 5305939 .... R12B: The SLA Is Mother, The SLA Is Father. --- GoldED/W32 3.0.1 * Origin: The Eastern Star [Mail Hub] - 864.573.7069 (1:18/500) .