Subj : Your strawman To : Dale Ross From : Ross Cassell Date : Sat May 19 2001 01:08 pm Hello Dale! 19 May 01 18:20, you wrote to me: >> I didnt post my initial findings publically Dale, I took it >> privately, you took it publically, do you deny? DR> I certainly do not deny it. And if you have any further issues please DR> feel free to post it publicly. We can even start a special echo just DR> for you to post more "finds" publicly. It doesn't bother me one bit. I DR> will not be embarrassed. If you actually do find something I will DR> consider that to be a good thing. Well it wont do me any good to do it privately, you will peacock around, so I'll do it here. >> 10/345 or 379/1 should never ever follow the other from my viewpoint >> in travelling to me. DR> That is your problem and not a problem that I can control. I cc'd 2 other individuals, if you felt slighted, you could have ignored the netmail and let them worry about it. Quit acting like you were the only person I sent the netmail to. >> A copy of a message sent from downstream of you should be sent to >> each 106/1 and 10/345, 106/1 sends it to me and vice versa from >> Todds end and everyone elses end, in a proper mesh. DR> And I cannot control what happens when a message leaves my system. Now DR> tell me how the suggested forcedpath statment would have stopped this. DR> Then explain why they didn't since the statements are in my config! Quit the semantics, you could have ignored the netmail. >> Questions (you answer) >> >> A. >> In what medium did I inform you of the anomaly we are talking about? DR> But if I left it NetMail I could not exposed you as the hyprocrite DR> that you are when it comes to filtering mail. Oh yes because Dale was afraid GOD would die? (I hope it has) >> B. >> Who took my messages to you and replied to them publically, thusly >> making it a public thing.? DR> It does not bother me at all that it is a public thing. You are the DR> one walking around with your foot in your mouth. In the future, if you DR> are going to tell someone what the problem is and how to fix it then DR> it is a good idea to actually understand the problem. I told you what the issue was, I didnt tell you how to correct it, neither did I bring this public, you did. If that how you want it, so be it? DR> I brought it public to expose the big hypocrite that you are. You are DR> filtering mail. You made your bed when you went on the smear Dale DR> campaign. I will not only make you lay down in it, I will strap to you DR> to it. Bring it on big boy, my netmail wasnt a smear or an attack on you or anyone, fuck me for doing y'all a favor. DR> What worries me, did you pass the mail on or did you trash the mail? Passed of course. DR> This quote from you worries me: DR> "I usually end up trashing every trap here as my system usually has DR> already seen it." DR> Did you verify that the messages in question actually had been seen by DR> your system? A pathline like this: 18/500 774/605 10/345 106/1 Is a fair indication that my system has seen the messages and yes I nuke those. and yes I have seen these. Additionally I have seen my node number in other positions in the path but all in Z1. DR> It took you TWO days to notify anyone of the problem. Was the mail DR> sidelined for two days? It took me 2 days to notify you of the problem, are you saying it is a problem, the last message you were peacocking about saying there was no problem, which is it? It took me 2 days to notify you, it took me maybe 8 or less hours to pass them on. How long did those traps sit on your system when you were in Scottsdale and the other trip you took earlier? >> My NOBOGUS usage is to detect technical issues that involve dupe >> loops and piss poor meshing, I dont use crystal balls and Ouija >> boards like you appear to do. DR> And to put it exactly as you have, your NoBogus config does a piss DR> poor job of detecting dupe loops and duplicate messages. Unless of DR> course you are actually running some other config than the one that DR> you posted. Dupe loops Dale not DUPES , why you worried about it, at least I posted my cfg, you wont. DR> No need for crystal balls or anything else. I use sound and solid DR> tests that are typical for duplicate messages. Bully for you, should I have the people in Sweden prepare your Nobel Prize? DR> Those are far more important and better for detection than DR> forcedpath. DR> I use forcedpath statements but they are not glue that holds things DR> together. Forcedpath does detect dupe loops and detects meshing issues. If anything its a daily diagnostic tool. >> Face it dickwad, my informing you of the pathing issues was in no >> way shape or form an attack on you or anyone else, screw me for >> trying to do you a favor. DR> This is typical of you. When you loose the technical side of an DR> argument you resort to name-calling. You are so predictable. Uh Dale I didnt lose this argument, I didnt start it either, you could have read the netmail and did nothing with it. I had good intentions with it, you tried to make it into something else. == Ross http://www.the-estar.com:8080 ross@the-estar.com or rcassell@home.com ICQ = 5305939 .... Parrots and Peacocks Dont Mesh. --- GoldED/W32 3.0.1 * Origin: The Eastern Star [Mail Hub] - 864.573.7069 (1:18/500) .