Subj : Your strawman To : Dale Ross From : Ross Cassell Date : Sun May 20 2001 01:43 am Hello Dale! 19 May 01 22:27, you wrote to me: >> I told you what the issue was, I didnt tell you how to correct it, DR> You most certainly did. No I told you what the problem was, I knew you would know the solution, you are many things but not that stupid. You have come a long ways since the days not long ago when you thought you could conjure up a mesh as a tier2, linking to another tier2, when both tier2's had separate tier1 uplinks. DR> Must I quote it to you AGAIN? BTW, why did you DR> not answer the questions about how forcedpath would help? I notice DR> that you left that out of your reply. Would it make you feel better if I said I was in error? Yes Dale I was wrong, you would not have detected it, my apologies. However when I detected it and politely worded a netmail to you and the other 2, that seemed to have bothered you. Now you say your reaction was to "expose me as a hypocrite", do I have to go back to messages written by me from 03/01/2001 and forward in the 3 or so echoes this NOBOGUS argument has been in to show you were I stated I still ran NOBOGUS in the manner I outlined in my cfg file yesterday? Now, If you can find messages from me stating that I did not run NOBOGUS at all while at the same time condemning you for running it, I'll eat crow, but no mind, I'm planning on having Quesidillas tonight for dinner cause you cant find them. Bottom line is that NOBOGUS has always been run right in my PKTCHECK.BAT for 1.5 years now, I dont have the CFGS you think I should, but then again I aint required to follow Dales LAW and dont pass this as a SLA thing either, it doesnt mandate its use either. I have to wonder if you have been pressuring Steve and Todd over not using it? Now had you handled the RIMA incident better and more tactfully, none of this would have come to fruition: A. Used a more pleasant tone. B. Did not make veiled threats as to what you may decide to do with his traffic C. Did not reveal the methods you employed to detect his traps Seeing a portion of his netmail as posted by Janis, you were not pleasant or tactful. You told him you were deciding on whether or not to let his traffic pass or gave him the impression. You revealed NOBOGUS. In the Z1B_COORD echo, I gave you advice as to how to approach trap issues with nodes, how to word them and Souvestre told you to be DIPLOMATIC, you ignored all of it. Dont blame me for your screw-ups. DR>>> I brought it public to expose the big hypocrite that you are. DR>>> You are filtering mail. You made your bed when you went on the DR>>> smear Dale campaign. I will not only make you lay down in it, I DR>>> will strap to you to it. >> >> Bring it on big boy, my netmail wasnt a smear or an attack on you or >> anyone, fuck me for doing y'all a favor. DR> You are pretty flustered right now, I can tell. I had better back off DR> some before you have a heart attack or something. Nah, I am ok, how bout you? == Ross http://www.the-estar.com:8080 ross@the-estar.com or rcassell@home.com ICQ = 5305939 .... Parrots and Peacocks Dont Mesh. --- GoldED/W32 3.0.1 * Origin: The Eastern Star [Mail Hub] - 864.573.7069 (1:18/500) .