Subj : Dog 'n' pony To : Michael Grant From : mark lewis Date : Sun May 13 2001 06:17 am >>> Squish, Jam, Gecho, Fastecho and many other tossers are quite >>> capable of tossing messages with no MSGID, and in fact can totally >>> ignore the MSGID kludge. Do you understand what *that* means? DR>> I certainly do know what that means. You are referring of course to DR>> your message that had a malformed MSGID. Not a message missing a DR>> MSGID. Yes Squish tossed that message and it passed through my system. DR>> Yes I informed you of the problem. To which you went ballistic. MG> You missed the point... what it means is that a valid MSGID is MG> *no longer* a requirement for participation in and message MG> movement within Fidonet, as the large majority of Fidonet mail MG> tossers have evolved to the point where they MG> *no longer require* a valid MSGID. geez... you have really got stuff backwards... completely... MSGID's have NEVER BEEN REQUIRED in fidonet... they are an addon and one that hasn't been fully embraced by all developers... )\/(ark * Origin: (1:3634/12) .