Subj : Cha..Cha....Changes To : MICHAEL GRANT From : FOXY FERGUSON Date : Sun Aug 11 2002 02:12 pm MG> If you had to update your routings regularly in order to keep MG> them in the chart, that'd help to keep the chart accurate. I am of the opinion that it would only mean that people would ignore the need to update it at all, which all too many already do. Ignore it, that is, until mail got lost. Whereupon they'd bitch like mad that it is the duty of all the volunteers (ECs, mail movers) to make sure their mail got where they wanted it to go, even when they don't tell the volunteers anything. Why does this list exist, Michael? Who is it supposed to serve? What do those who depend upon list absolutely need to find in it? What is the information they need that can only be found in this list and nowhere else? IS there critical info that can't be found elsewhere? Why is it overly complicated, especially in a shrinking Fidonet? I can produce a route list in the overly complicated fashion in which it was initially designed, leaving asside the question of why it even came into being in the first place and at whose insistance... OR I can dispense with certain weekly headaches caused by that rather unnecessary over-complication and adhere to the KISS principle. I've done the former ever since August of 2000, all the while listening to major mail movers who say that isn't what =they= need. In my opinion, it is those major mail movers who are my 'customers', if you will, and it is those nodes whom I need to satisfy. The software created by the former listkeeper to produce the list required a certain commercial software application that I did not own and wasn't about to go out and buy just for this one task. I designed my own system, wrote a few simple batch files, augmented by my own custom software, in order to ensure the expected result. I've added a few bells and whistles just to satisfy a very vocal minority, but they weren't, IMHO, really needed. I have automated the system I use to the maximum possible, given what I have to work with and what I am expected to produce. And every week I still have a certain amount of maunual manipulation that CANNOT be avoided, partly because of Bill Gates' broken-down crappy software that simply cannot POSSIBLY produce a correct sort, given the nature of the data! I do not see how additional automation (such as required regular updates) will solve anything at all. I greatly fear it would only make things worse. Too many rules and too much red tape is often, I believe, as counter-productive as too little. All of the above, sir, is essentially what's behind recent changes. If it causes me to lose my allegedly lofty and supposidly powerful position of ZEC, sobeit! --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.4c * Origin: Pogo's Place (1:361/1) .