Subj : Tiers
To   : Ross Cassell
From : Stewart Honsberger
Date : Thu Aug 02 2001 04:11 am

Hello Ross!

Aug 01 2001 16:14, Ross Cassell wrote to Stewart Honsberger:

 SH>> Sounds like you've got more of a "server farm" than I do. What's your
 SH>> excuse? Oh yes, typos and screwing up config files are "human". I
 SH>> forgot about that.

 RC> Server farm, the LINUX box isnt being used for my ops at this point, 
 RC> so what are you talking about?

You've already forgotten your own claims, have you? Go back about three 
messages in this thread where you told me that my only claim to perfection was 
my "server farm" (your words), T1, and infinite resources to fall back on. I 
explained that all my servers ran on a single machine, fairly low powered, and 
you then went on to explain about your much higher powered machine along with 
your secondary machine. I explained about my typical home-user broadband 
Internet connection, you removed that from your response.

IOW, you have more of a 'server farm' than I do. It's quite simple, really. 
Would you like me to take a picture for you?

 SH>> I'm talking about the dozens apon dozens of times where you've 
 SH>> excused
 RC>                                   ^^^^
 RC> Typo shit happens.

Don't tell me you're confused AGAIN, Ross! How many people rely on my echomail 
content for their echomail feeds?

 SH>> screw-ups that could have been avoided had the person involved used
 SH>> just a modicum of common sense. I'm talking about the fact that
 SH>> you've laid claim to several of these "typos" yourself, and shrugged
 SH>> them off as if they were normal, regardless of how many downlinks were
 SH>> affected.

 RC> Nothing was being shrugged off, but I dont believe in Capital 
 RC> Punishment for geniune human error.

No, you just believe that human error is acceptable, even time and time again.

 SH>> Actually, when properly installed it allows for several minutes of
 SH>> runtime.

 RC> So you assume that _ALL_ power failures will never exceed the 
 RC> duration of your UPS's rated runtime?

When did I say anything even remotely like that? I said I'm assured of several 
minutes of runtime. My power grid only goes down for very brief times. It's 
only been out for more than 5 minutes once in the entire time I've lived here. 
If it does go down to the point of low battery condition in my UPS, my system 
will power down gracefully and power on again as soon as the power is restored.

Since I know how easily confused you get, that would fall under the category of 
'situations beyond our control'. I don't expect hobbyists to own $5000 UPS 
units.

 SH>> Well good for you. Now the only thing standing in the way of your
 SH>> systems' stability is you.

 RC> Nothing wrong with the stability of my system, since you never had a 
 RC> link here, you dont know, why dont you ask my links?

No, but you have admitted to errors. Typos in your config files that have 
affected others. That's what I'm getting at. Focus.

[Stewart Honsberger] [blackdeath@softhome.net] [http://blackdeath.brad-x.com/]

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    In /Brave New World/, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure.
    In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley
    feared that what we love will ruin us." -- Neil Postman

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