Subj : Tiers To : Andrea Santos From : Frank Vest Date : Sat Jul 14 2001 11:57 pm On (14 Jul 01) Andrea Santos wrote to Frank Vest... Hello Andrea, -> AS> Factor out the WWB as its emphasis is outside Zone 1. Only -> difference -> Really? From my looking at the backbone.ww, it appears that many of -> the echos carried by the z1b and na are there. I don't see how it can -> be factored out. AS> My understanding is alot of what they carry that the other two don't AS> are outside Zone 1 and multilingual. Since I'm only fluent in English AS> (can barely get by with Spanish), these other echos are of no use to AS> me. Ah... Yes, what they carry might include other language echos. They do, however, carry the same basic echos that the other backbones carry. -> Ok. Problem is that some Nets may not connect to all backbones for -> one reason or the other. For Nodes that rely on their Net for a feed -> and don't have access to Internet technology to connect to other -> backbones, that could be a problem. AS> It's only a problem if the nodes in a Net are being fed by someone AS> linking to the Z1B, where said nodes desire to carry dead echos. Argument could be made for both sides here. A dead echo can come back to life if some group decides to take a liking to the echo. -> This might not be such a factor today, but it could be. AS> I'd say it's not much of one. I have my own feed independent of my AS> Net, don't run an IP mailer, yet get all my mail via FTP. Ok. -> In the past, -> it was a big factor in that many Nodes relied on their Net to feed -> them and what was available in the way of echos was the direct result AS> Actually, it wasn't a big factor because in the days before Internet AS> Connectivity was rampant, we had one distribution system; the NAB. Thank you. Actually, I think it was "fidonet.na", but anyhow: What happened? (been answered several different ways) Why was it allowed to happen? What can be done to correct it? Does it need corrected? Are we better off now than then? Why? These are questions that pop into my mind at the moment. I'm sure there are others. AS> Again, the point needs to be clear that what you can access via the AS> NAB, (with few exceptions) as opposed to the Z1B amounts to echos with AS> no AS> traffic. If there's some reason why you wish to configure dead echos, AS> than perhaps this might be an issue for you. No issue for me. Regards, Frank http://texoma.net/~flv http://bise.tzo.com/r19 --- PPoint 3.01 * Origin: Holy Cow! I'm A Point!! (1:124/6308.1) .