Subj : Tiers To : Frank Vest From : Andrea Santos Date : Sun Jul 15 2001 11:13 am -> Ok... My agenda (oh no!) :-) -> Start the fidonet.na list up again. -> Forget about the backbone.* -> Forget about the top level, tier*, mesh this and that, and other BS. You can only suggest this to the persons involved in distribution. It's up to them whether this will happen or no. -> Look at the Elist. Find the echos that are listed as distributed via -> Fidonet. The hubs do this. What's distributed in Zone 1 they carry, minus the Z1B and dead echos. If it's in the elist and not distributed, it's because the Moderator doesn't want it distributed or the echo has been retired, like a few of mine, and the echo tag is merely being retained so someone doesn't swipe it and attempt to revive what's dead. -> Forget about the multilanguage stuff. If it's not in your language and -> you don't want it, don't subscribe to it. I don't want to go to that trouble by determining which echos are multi-lingual or no. Waste of time. -> Check for "private" echos. IE: Regional, administrative and such. Regional/Private echos will not be available to you unless you are in said region or have been granted access. -> In case there is a question if the echo is "private" or admin. or -> such, ask the Moderator. Again, such echos won't be available to you. -> ---= Rules =--- -> 1. If the echos is listed as a Fidonet echo and the Moderator wants it -> distributed, by gum!, it's distributed. Period. As long as they make the required requests to get the echo listed. -> 2. If a person feeding someone doesn't want to carry an echo, get it -> from somewhere else. This has always been possible. -> 3. No power allowed. No Titles allowed. Fat chance. ;-) -> 4. If other distribution systems wish to continue operation, fine. Go -> for it. Defeating the purpose of this discussion. No need for multiple distribution systems within Zone 1. -> 5. If some want to charge for service, no problem. If some want to pay -> for service, no problem. Just don't bitch about the service to anyone -> except the person or "distribution system" you pay to. Agreed. -> 6. This is a hobby. There are no guarantees given, implied or -> expressed. Minus any service contracts folks have with providers who charge a fee. If you're getting your mail free, not much you can complain about, other than to move to another free provider. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v3.0pr3 * Origin: Platinum Xpress Support 305-248-7815 (1:135/382) .