Subj : ERRORS in Route List! To : Jack Yates From : Darrell Salter Date : Sun May 13 2001 03:48 pm Jack Yates wrote in a message to Darrell Salter: JY>> Yeah, but we all straightened that mess out, Ross; why dredge it JY>> up again? DS> He was incited to perform hate mongering? JY> If I were the moderator of this echo, I would toss me out for what JY> I'm about to write. Hmm ... why do I doubt that would happen? JY> Somewhere, somehow, you, Darrell, latched on to the idea that JY> everybody in Region 18 hates everyone in Region 12. Wrong. Pay attention, Jack. I have always said there are good sysops *everywhere*. JY> How or why is unclear to me because I don't think that there's any JY> "hate" involved. Wrong. Ask your RC about that. He explained it to me in netmail. BTW, I see he has also scooped up this thread and dropped it into Z1C for further hate mongering. I'm anxious to see who will respond. Will you? Still unclear? JY> I'm not going to speak for anyone else in R18 but it would appear JY> that the invective that comes from this region and that you wish JY> to blanket your region with, is directed to a few select, vocal JY> individuals, including yourself. Nope. They refer to us as "R12" or "Region 12". Shall I dig up a few samples for you? JY> This dialogue comes from a few select individuals in Region 18, JY> including me, but because the individuals *are* in Region 18 you JY> feel that the whole region is against you. I question that you JY> speak for the SysOps in all of Region 12 now, just as I questioned JY> that you spoke for all of the Sysops in R12 when you were R12C. JY> But, I don't care, and I don't care how you do things north of Lake JY> Ontario. Your recollection of history is extremely faulty. First, I have never stated that the whole region (R18) is against me. Second, there is no need for you to question that I speak for R12 since I have always made it clear that I do not. JY> If you want to go through the rest of your Fido career with a JY> persecution complex, please do, knock yerself out; but it does the JY> network no good at all for you to spread your version of hate JY> among so many others on *both* sides of the above-mentioned lake JY> who may not feel that emotion until you introduce it to them by JY> repeated accusation, ad nauseum. Repitition begets belief, I JY> suppose and that may be what you're trying to achieve. What rubbish. JY> If you can't stand the controversy, stop being controversial; if JY> you don't want to fight, stop carrying a broken pool cue to these JY> meetings where we seem to run into one another, and *don't* JY> continue to stick your hand into the tiger's cage. I do not take direction from you and your willingness to tell me these things would be a good place to start looking for sources of controversy. JY> Nonetheless, I am damn sick and tired of a few SysOps spreading the JY> belief that because I am in R18, I, personally, surely must hate JY> everyone in R12. Hate takes time and energy and I don't have JY> enough of either to invest in such a petty, useless endeavor. Since you're in this (mode), and speaking of the tiger's cage, perhaps now would be a good time for you to explain why you were discovered with an illicit feed to our regional echo. Care to? If you don't want to go public with this information, my netmail folder is always open. If you'd prefer to continue to avoid explaining it, I'll understand that also. I'm leaving the door completely open. It's up to you to close it. Darrell darrell@sprk.com --- * Origin: Sparky's (1:229/438) .