Subj : RE: ERRORS in Route List!
To   : Dave Hamilton
From : Andrea Santos
Date : Thu May 10 2001 09:18 am

On May 09, 2001 07:04pm, DAVE HAMILTON wrote to ANDREA SANTOS:

 AS>> No, you are stacking your net with a bunch of nodes who should not be
 DH> listed in
 AS>> your Net or in Canada.  Now, if you wish to provide evidence that you
 AS>> did
 AS>> contact the applicable NCs, and include their "don't bother me"
 AS>> responses, perhaps there's something more to discuss.

 DH> I don't report to my RC.

Course not.  That would be adhering to Policy 4 and we know you don't.

 DH> I send him segments, and as a sysop in his
 DH> region, I expect him to process those segments.

And the RC should be expecting that you notify him when you take it upon
yourself to nodelist an out of area node.  Policy requires that.

 DH> I will never again name names of NCs or RCs who are destroying their
 DH> constituencies.

Unless you can back up the charges with evidence, your claims will fall on deaf
ears and I will continue to believe your sole purpose for doing as you are is
to stack your Net with nodes.

 DH> I did that once and realized that people are not
 DH> interested in evidence.

I am.  BTW: Now you say you did that _once_.  Seems you said previously you got
tired of contacting numerous *C's who told you "don't bother".  Which is it?

 DH> I am *certainly* not going to drag brand new
 DH> sysops who have been intimidated by people in their own areas into the
 DH> public light.

How would you be doing that?  With the exception of you, Salter, Simpson and
Stewie, the rest aren't posting here.

 DH> You, as an outstanding example of the aforementioned public light, are
 DH> interested in discrediting me and forcing Net229 sysops to conform to
 DH> your vision of the ultimate Fidonet.

I'm interested in bringing to light that you are listing nodes who should be
listed elsewhere and are making no attempt to see that this happens.

 DH> As you have so often advocated, it is not up to me to dictate how other
 DH> nets/regions/zones run their territories. That is the business of the
 DH> sysops who live in those conditions. When a sysop gets a number in
 DH> 1:229, then that is the territory that sysop has joined by choice.

Right.  How is it that the node down in GA contacted you in the first place?
And did you make any effort to contact Jack when this node "approached" you?
Just trying to be logical.....why would any node located in the United States
intentionally look to get listed in Canada?  Doesn't make sense.

I don't expect that you'll change your methods.  I will tell you, however, that
if I am contacted by any prospective node who is geographically located in your
confines, I'll send them elsewhere.
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