Subj : ERRORS in Route List! To : Lesley-Dee Dylan From : Ross Cassell Date : Tue May 08 2001 09:31 am Hello Lesley-Dee! 08 May 01 11:31, you wrote to Carl Austin Bennett: LD> Which is exactly what should NOT be happening. Fidonet started with LD> netmail. Fidonet's netmail should be working. It is working, I have no record of bounced netmail here in nearly a year, that tells me that those I connect to havent bounced it back to me. LD> To jump all over Bobby LD> because he and his committee are making a much needed, strong effort LD> to help fix the problems with routed netmail is unwarranted. You can give up your anonymousness to, you are on the committee, Bobby told me in not so many words. When I saw the elisting for Z1ROUTING I netmailed him and asked him why he was embroiling himself in the politics of the route list, since he was not part of the original brouhaha surrounding the initial route list war, he replied back that he wasnt and that he was doing you a favor by listing it since you had asked him to. Of course this is par for the course, surprisingly you have him wrapped around your little finger. Your committee is you, Bobby and maybe Carl. If you are not on the committee, I doubt you would have asked for an echo to be boned. As far as ERN accuracy goes, I think its fair to say that whatever errors Foxy made in the list, you all wanted her head on a silver platter, now I pointed out some errors to Bobby, right after he strutted around about so called errors of Foxy's, bet you will whip out the "Dylan Double-Standard" and wont demand Bobby be accountable? Since you are on the committee: If the ZEC is Foxy Ferguson and her primary AKA is 361/1 and if her ERN for that primary AKA is routed via 18/500 & 140/1, why pray tell me does Bobby list the ERN routing to go through Bennie Hutto? I want to know how in the holy hell Bobby ever extrapolated Bennie into this picture? Venturing to guess since Bobby is using echomail messages as source data I bet you a dollar to a donut that Bobby read a seenby line, thinking it was a pathline. I bet you Carl was surprised to learn he was in the ERN path one hop removed from ED Koons system (18/140). Bottom line is here Dee, Bobby's list is full of errors and he should not be parading about over what he perceives to be someone elses errors, when his own handiwork is a joke. ECHOMAIL messages as source data, listing node level routing... too much ambiguity there, honestly there is, some of these routes are guesses, the route he used for Paul Kerr 18/201 was incorrect, a logical guess, but nonetheless incorrect. I also didnt go further down that list than net 105 other than to comment on the node level routing.. Bobby will soon find out that source data is the key here and he cant guess at it.. Those stoopid RVIA flags aint gonna be reliable if not in widespread usage, and I know of a couple NC's who will tell me to GFMS if I ask or tell them to use them. Unreliable source data plagued Foxy's predecessor, but YOU knew that. == Ross http://www.the-estar.com:8080 ross@the-estar.com or rcassell@home.com ICQ = 5305939 .... R12B: Drunk Sailor, Cloned Parrot, Fat Queen & A Flock Of Peacocks. --- GoldED/W32 3.0.1 * Origin: The Eastern Star [Mail Hub] - 864.573.7069 (1:18/500) .