Subj : alternate routing chart
To   : Carl Austin Bennett
From : Darrell Salter
Date : Tue Apr 17 2001 12:40 pm

Carl Austin Bennett wrote in a message to Lesley-Dee Dylan:

 BS> First of all, you do NOT have permission from me to make reference to
 BS> 1:140/1, REC17, or for that matter, ANY net in region 17, since you do 
 BS>> not have specific permission from either RC17, REC17, or the NC of the 
 BS>> net in question. 

 LDD> Are you planning to make routing information into Region 17 a big, 
 LDD> dark secret?  Why?

 CAB> Bob is in the business of charging nets $US20 a month for echomail
 CAB> feeds. 

 CAB> If R17 nets were simply free to go elsewhere and have ROUTELST.R17
 CAB> updated accordingly in any sort of timely fashion, wouldn't that
 CAB> be bad for business? 

Why yes, I believe it would be. 

 LDD> Exactly how old is the last routing chart produced in Region 17?

 CAB> November 15, 2000. Not even REC17's own site has anything more
 CAB> recent. Yuck! 

LOL!

 CAB> By contrast, info for our own region's updated weekly, right in
 CAB> the nodelist. 

Good work!

 LDD> Do you have that much need to control the flow of mail in Western 
 LDD> Canada?  That kind of power is corrupting, Bob.  Trying to maintain 
 LDD> control and power can lead to breaches of trust, just like
 LDD> happened with 
 LDD> Bob Kohl.

 CAB> Perhaps the breaches of trust in Western Canada could stand on
 CAB> their own merits (or demerits) without even the need to mention
 CAB> yet another Bob here? 

True. BobS is about as much corruption as I'd care to witness for now.

 LDD> All this talk about how the Z1B is "splitting" fidonet, and when some 
 LDD> volunteers put together a committee to attempt some real help to 
 LDD> Fido, this is the response they get - "No, you can't do that, I 
 LDD> didn't give you permission."

 CAB> So what else is new?

Ross'll be next?

 LDD> What makes you think permission is needed in writing to make 
 LDD> reference to someone in a document? 

 CAB> If you were claiming that Bob were personally making a commercial
 CAB> endorsement for a product or service that you sell for profit,
 CAB> that would be one thing. 

Oh, I thought he was doing that.

 CAB> Reference to Bob's credit card numbers or server passwords is also
 CAB> off-limits. 

 CAB> Beyond that, I don't see any restrictions that'd be of interest. 

Nope.

 LDD> Do you think the Saskabush Ratter, or whatever your local newspaper is 
 LDD> called, needs Jean Chretien's permission to make reference to
 LDD> him in an 
 LDD> article?

 CAB> News photos don't require a model release, as enquiring minds want
 CAB> to know! 

In this case, call it a morbid curiosity. :-)

 LDD> Amazing, isn't it?  Someone took her up on her challenge.  And that 
 LDD> just makes you livid!  And you even want to block distribution in the 
 LDD> existing channels.

 CAB> If Bob is distributing outdated info and then attempting to hinder
 CAB> efforts by others to fix the mess, perhaps the sysops of Region 17
 CAB> should raise the issue with their new RC. The status quo is not in
 CAB> the best interest of that Region. 

Talk about getting ripped off! 

Darrell

darrell@sprk.com 
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