Subj : alternate routing chart To : Bob Seaborn From : Carl Austin Bennett Date : Tue Apr 17 2001 08:44 am BS> First of all, you do NOT have permission from me to make reference to BS> 1:140/1, REC17, or for that matter, ANY net in region 17, since you do not BS> have specific permission from either RC17, REC17, or the NC of the net in BS> question. Accordingly, please remove ANY and All reference to 1:140/1, BS> REC17, or the R17 nets until you do have such permission in verified BS> writing. LDD> Are you planning to make routing information into Region 17 a big, dark LDD> secret? BS> I am ashamed to have my name and position associated with these bogus BS> files, and have chosen to NOT associate myself with the power-mongers who BS> choose to hide behind Stephen. Since permission to use my name, BS> position, or node numbers, was not sought PRIOR to publication, I refuse BS> to have it used now. Have you obtained written permission from both Mr. Monteith and I to use the 1:12/1 and 1:12/0 addresses in your file BACKSTAT.NA or is that bogus too? By the standard you apply, I guess I should ask to see the signed documents. BS> ROUTELST.R17 is none of your business, you are not in R17, therefore have BS> no say. It does make it awkward for systems outside your region to route mail to your sysops if info you distribute to the rest of the zone is completely outdated. BS> R17 is happy with me as their REC, beyond that you are not to be BS> involved. Have you asked them all, or do you presume to speak for the Region now? LDD> All this talk about how the Z1B is "splitting" fidonet, and when some LDD> volunteers put together a committee to attempt some real help to Fido, LDD> this is the response they get - "No, you can't do that, I didn't give LDD> you permission." BS> Because their obvious attempt to usurp the official policies and BS> documents is well documented. What official policy or document is this? There is no policy stating who may or may not produce a zone ROUTELST. LDD> Do you think the Saskabush Ratter, or whatever your local newspaper is LDD> called, needs Jean Cretien's permission to make reference to him in an LDD> article? Does the Canadian Post Office have permission to post your LDD> address in their postal code books and on their web site? BS> Yes, they do, at least as far as I am concerned. In that case, did you ask StephenM or I before listing 1:12/1 or 1:12/0 in your documents? You can't have this both ways, Bob, pick one: yes or no. The standard which you seek to apply is going to cause you some problems. LDD> But I kind of think that the needed permission was granted by someone LDD> higher up the heirarchy, with several challenges to others to produce LDD> an alternate routelist. BS> No permission was ever sought of me, or granted by me! May I ask who put you in charge of deciding who can or cannot produce a zone routelist? You appear incapable of even keeping a regional one updated. LDD> Amazing, isn't it? Someone took her up on her challenge. And that LDD> just makes you livid! And you even want to block distribution in the LDD> existing channels. BS> Yes, because as I previously stated, should someone wish those documents BS> distributed, they should have been supplied to the ZEC1 for distribution. Why? BS> It's quite obvious that you wish to bypass the official distribution BS> channels to sponsor your own form of anarchy. How so? You're the one distributing outdated info. November 2000, eh? Ouch! BS> And I, for one, am not prepared to cooperate, or be involved. Too busy looking for an illicit feed to the REG12 admin echo today, Bob? --- Msged/LNX TE 06 * Origin: Pause-Cafe Kingston 613-549-5599 telnet:cafe.dyndns.org (1:249/116) .