Subj : alternate routing chart
To   : Bob Seaborn
From : Lesley-Dee Dylan
Date : Tue Apr 17 2001 05:43 am

 BS>       I'm pointing this at you because you are the 
 BS> hatch point for these bogus
 BS> routing  charts.

Bogus?  The current "official" list keeper is no longer official, by her own 
words, since her listing as ZLC was removed from the nodelist.  Therefore, Foxy 
is just a volunteer, just as the other committee are just volunteers.

 BS>       First of all, you do NOT have permission from me 
 BS> to make reference to
 BS> 1:140/1, REC17, or for that matter, ANY net in region 
 BS> 17, since you do not have specific permission from 
 BS> either RC17, REC17, or the NC of the net in question.  
 BS> Accordingly, please remove ANY and All reference to 
 BS> 1:140/1, REC17, or the R17 nets until you do have such 
 BS> permission in verified writing.

Are you planning to make routing information into Region 17 a big, dark secret? 
 Why?  Exactly how old is the last routing chart produced in Region 17?  Do you 
have that much need to control the flow of mail in Western Canada?  That kind 
of power is corrupting, Bob.  Trying to maintain control and power can lead to 
breaches of trust, just like happened with Bob Kohl.

All this talk about how the Z1B is "splitting" fidonet, and when some 
volunteers put together a committee to attempt some real help to Fido, this is 
the response they get - "No, you can't do that, I didn't give you permission."

What makes you think permission is needed in writing to make reference to 
someone in a document?  Do you think the Saskabush Ratter, or whatever your 
local newspaper is called, needs Jean Cretien's permission to make reference to 
him in an article?  Does the Canadian Post Office have permission to post your 
address in their postal code books and on their web site?  

But I kind of think that the needed permission was granted by someone higher up 
the heirarchy, with several challenges to others to produce an alternate 
routelist.


Msg#661, Apr-12-01 09:02:34
   From: FOXY FERGUSON                        
     To: RUTH ARGUST                          
Subject: ROUTELST.098
Produce a zone routelist. 


Msg#688, Apr-14-01 15:46:16
   From: FOXY FERGUSON                        
     To: LESLEY-DEE DYLAN                     
Subject: z1b link
LD> Did you really think that there was no one in the Z1B who
LD> would be willing to fix the routelist?
They've been threatening to put out their own for the past 3
months. I've yet to see their list or know of anyone who has.


Msg#614, Apr-09-01 14:42:10
   From: Foxy Ferguson                        
     To: David Calafrancesco                  
Subject: ROUTELST.098
If you don't like it, your remedy is as it has always been even before the
zone list came into being: do your own!


Amazing, isn't it?  Someone took her up on her challenge.  And that just makes 
you livid!  And you even want to block distribution in the existing channels.

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 * Origin: Leftover Hippies (1:250/525)

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