Subj : ROUTELST.098 To : mark lewis From : Michael Grant Date : Sat Apr 14 2001 06:07 pm Hello mark. 14 Apr 01 11:37, you wrote to me: MG>> know that despite what others say, they are not, in fact, MG>> guilty by association, and would never make the kinds of MG>> breaches they are being accused of. ml> you forgot the word "knowingly"... i recently detailed the autoadd ml> methodology that many systems use to add echos... the message was ml> written to ruth argust wherein i asked her to tell us how a system is ml> to determine what security group and level(s) to give an echo that ml> arrives and is automatically added vs. being dumped into the badmail ml> folder and that can also be expanded to include an areafix message ml> with the simple "+areaname" command... it's gets even more complicated ml> due to the freedom that each system has in determining what group and ml> or security level(s) the sysop/sysadmin of a system decides use and ml> allow access to... ml> sorry, i don't remember which echo i poasted that message in... ml> possibly z1backbone... I saw it, and you are absolutely right. I carry R18 echos here as pass-throughs because I have a downlink who is in R18 and it was requested of me to carry the R18 echos for him by both my downlink and his RC. It is very easy, especially with auto-add setups, to miss an echo that should not be allowed general access to all. In fact, those R18 areas were auto-added here, and I had to manually go into my config and set them to a different security level so that not everyone would have access to them. Mind you, since I hub in three other networks at the same time as I do so in Fidonet, it's something I am quite used to doing, and I don't find it particularly difficult to keep on top of. Not that any of these facts will keep certain individuals in this network from slandering innocent people in order to further their own political agendas... --- GoldED+/386 1.1.4.5 * Origin: MikE'S MaDHousE: WelComE To ThE AsYluM! (1:134/11) .