Subj : May the Guilty Party Please Rise
To   : Andrea Santos
From : David Calafrancesco
Date : Sat Apr 28 2001 04:50 pm

Andrea Santos wrote in a message to David Calafrancesco:

->  AS> You handled the situation poorly and caused a node to yank two of
->  AS> his echos from your distribution system.  And they would still be
->  AS> gone if others hadn't intervened.  Whether your technical methods
->  AS> are the same or different than John's, I don't recall a similar
->  AS> crisis occurring while I was connected to him, spilling into the
->  AS> backbone echos.

-> Really? I saw lots of spiteful moderators yank echos from the Z1B 
-> because of a disagreement with John. The entire squish/maximus series 
-> stands out in my mind, equus is another that sticks out.

 AS> In none of those cases were the reasons as a result of messages
 AS> being sidelined.  Those announcements were made right at the time
 AS> of the NAB/Z1B split because of personality/political disputes
 AS> between the Moderators and John.  Very simply, tit for tat, "I
 AS> don't want my echos distributed on *your* backbone".  Kohl never
 AS> saw the light of day and, in the end, his echo died as a result.

It was a combination of tit for tat, but the source of those disputes devolved 
back to John requiring messages that passed through his system to be clean 
technicly. He and the other zone hubs caused nobogus to be written in the first 
place and he ran it for years. I believe that many of the disputes that 
resulted in moderators pulling or threatening to pull echos derived from John's 
use of the tools he used. In that we are seeing a similar situation. A zone hub 
using tools to cut down on the amount of garbage traffic circulating at the 
top. 

What many people fail to remember in all this is the economies of scale. By 
cleaning the backbone traffic we remove the garbage from all the hundreds of 
downlinks. Otherwise we need to have cleaners running at every downlink. If the 
few zone hubs would clean the backbone equally there would be a higher signal 
to noise ratio for the entire network. 

Dave Calafrancesco, Team OS/2
dave@drakkar.org

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