Subj : 1:10/345 To : Phil Simpson From : Michael Grant Date : Thu Nov 29 2001 01:02 pm Hello Phil. 28 Nov 01 23:36, you wrote to me: MG>> Even Roy wasn't serious; and if he was, he was still playing a MG>> game. I've known Roy for a long time; longer than I've been a MG>> Fidonet member, and I know his M.O. He talks big, saying he can MG>> do this and that, but he's not dumb enough to actually /do/ those MG>> things /himself/, because he knows there's a chance he'll get MG>> caught, and if he does there'll be serious consequences. PS> Careful now, that could almost be construed as an personal attack on PS> Roy. So what if it is? Roy knows it's true; it's not a baseless accusation such as Dale Ross is fond of throwing around. MG>> So instead, he plays the game of persuasion and playing one MG>> side MG>> against the other, because the biggest kick of all that Roy gets MG>> is out of simply stirring up shit. He's been doing that exact MG>> thing in Z1BACKBONE at present. The ultimate victory for Roy MG>> would be if he can find a flunky dumb enough to do what Roy MG>> suggests, in effect doing Roy's dirty work for him and taking the MG>> fall. PS> I'm certain Roy agrees with your dazzling analysis of him, Oh, now you're speaking for Roy? Boy, he'll get a kick out of that, what with all the personal attacks /you/ have launched in his direction. Are you trying to be Roy's buddie, now? PS> BTW, aren't you a dentist's helper or something? No, I'm not. I'm a dental technician. Go look it up in the Funk & Aardvark's.. MG>> Maybe when these messages were being posted in FLAME, Roy MG>> thought that I would be dumb enough to be his flunky, but I MG>> know him too well and saw through his schtick. I had other MG>> motives in playing the game with Roy; I wanted to aquire that MG>> program, so I played along with him, saying what he wanted to MG>> hear, until he sent me the PS> Totally fiendish of you my friend. I would be suprised if Roy ever PS> trusted /you/ again. What makes you think I care if Roy Witt trusts me or not? What makes you think that Roy Witt "trusted" me in the past? Your idiotic false ASSumption that me and Roy were "buddies"? I told you before we weren't; and I was serious about it. Just because we occasionally agree on certain political issues in Fidonet doesn't mean we are the best of pals; in fact we never were. Roy's an asshole, and he's proud of it; he parades his "Asshole of the Year" award like a medal of honor. So here's a news flash for you, Einstein; Roy trusts almost /no one/ in Fidonet, and I most certainly wouldn't trust Roy, and never have in the past. Roy is a game player; especially in the FLAME echo. He tries to manipulate others, and others try to manipulate him; it's all part of the game. Nothing is serious about it; it's mainly a contest to see who can one-up the other. So for once I pulled one over on the head asshole; it doesn't happen often, but it did at that time... That wasn't the only reason I was talking to Roy in that thread though; just like him, I wanted to see the R12 and Z1B assholes like yourself and Dale get all worked up over what was essentially a joke. The reason? For the sheer entertainment value. It worked; it's been a hoot watching Dale froth at the mouth over three little messages I posted in FLAME. PS> So, to end this reply, I must say, for someone that chastises PS> one for personal attacks, you certainly have some audacity for PS> the duration of your reply post to totally vault well past the PS> accused in personal attacks. Good for you, well done. If a personal attack has some basis in fact, I see nothing wrong with it. I attacked Dale for the /very/ reasons he posted /himself/ that he was using to justify his "punishment of Ross. And get facts straight, Philly boy; I never said that /personal attacks/ were morally repugnant; I said that Dale's actions in tying /personal opinions/ to /mail connections/ was morally repugnant. Dale's attack on me OTOH, was based on nothing more than sheer paranoia and wild speculation, and has nothing to do with reality; so /of course/ I will not stand for that. --- GoldED/386 3.0.1-dam3 * Origin: MikE'S MaDHousE: WelComE To ThE AsYluM! (1:134/11) .