Subj : 1:10/345
To   : Ross Cassell
From : Michael Grant
Date : Wed Nov 28 2001 01:19 pm

Hello Ross.

28 Nov 01 16:23, you wrote to me:

 MG>> for all to see. They are a clear attempt to hold nodes hostage to
 MG>> your personal likes and dislikes, and to silence criticism. You
 MG>> may have suceeded in silencing Ross' criticism in this echo, but
 MG>> you'll not silence mine.

 RC> Michael, give it up..

 RC> A. The link between 18/500 <> 379/1 is intact, I have no plans on
 RC> jeopardizing it, it would be stupid of me to, given the speech I gave
 RC> Chris Cranford.

 RC> B. Should he sever it and I didnt jeopardize it, mud in his eye.

I've pretty much had my say on it. Dale's actions are clearly unjustifiable; 
I've proven that.

Now he wants to attack me personally; and I'll not stand for that. He spins his 
paranoid little fantasy, brought on by a round of postings in FLAME designed 
purely to get his gander; and ASSumes it's a real conspiracy. It looks like it 
worked, but it took him a long time to pop his cork over it.

Here he posts:

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Then on 5/17/2001 discussion came up about who might have security lax enough
to toss any incoming packet that  connects with me. You made some suggestion to
try.

Now this was out in public. No telling what you said/did behind closed doors. I
do see where Roy said he sent you FNB.

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The anal twit doesn't even realize that Roy and I didn't even exchange one 
single netmail over this! Ask Roy; he'll tell you it's true. I contacted Roy 
once in e-mail, to FREQ that file, and made no comments whatsoever to Roy in 
that e-mail.

Even Roy wasn't serious; and if he was, he was still playing a game. I've known 
Roy for a long time; longer than I've been a Fidonet member, and I know his 
M.O. He talks big, saying he can do this and that, but he's not dumb enough to 
actually /do/ those things /himself/, because he knows there's a chance he'll 
get caught, and if he does there'll be serious consequences.

So instead, he plays the game of persuasion and playing one side against the 
other, because the biggest kick of all that Roy gets is out of simply stirring 
up shit. He's been doing that exact thing in Z1BACKBONE at present. The 
ultimate victory for Roy would be if he can find a flunky dumb enough to do 
what Roy suggests, in effect doing Roy's dirty work for him and taking the 
fall.

Maybe when these messages were being posted in FLAME, Roy thought that I would 
be dumb enough to be his flunky, but I know him too well and saw through his 
schtick. I had other motives in playing the game with Roy; I wanted to aquire 
that program, so I played along with him, saying what he wanted to hear, until 
he sent me the program. You'll note that after I aquired it and had time to 
look it over, I made no further postings in that thread. I'd already gotten 
what I wanted.


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