Subj : Remove
To   : Ross Cassell
From : Jack Yates
Date : Sat Sep 29 2001 12:17 pm

 JY>> Bobby:  Why are you removing an active echo from distribution?

 RC> I have only been collating echostats via a master "MONTHLY" report
 RC> since May, prior to that it was by day and week..

 RC> But:

 RC> May 2001 = 25 Messages
 RC> Jun 2001 = 0  Messages
 RC> Jul 2001 = 2  Messages
 RC> Aug 2001 = 4  Messages

There have been 12 messages since 10 Aug.


 RC> When I looked "in" the echo this past July to make a case for culling
 RC> some of these dead echoes, all the messages in this echo that I saw
 RC> were in Espanol.

I noticed this; perhaps one was in English.  Nonetheless, I saw people
communicating.


 RC> Dont ask me what was being talked about.. <G>

 RC> I wouldnt call this echo "teeming" with activity, the average for the
 RC> months I provided only equals to 7.75 messages a month or 1 message
 RC> every 4 days, if one chose to look at it this way? This is complicated
 RC> by the fact that many in Z1 may not be able to read espanol?

They were communicating with one another, not you or I, Ross; perhaps best for
them to do so in the language they understand best, no?  Are you comfortable
with killing an obviously active echo?

 RC> However by the book, Bobby is following same, regardless if it sucks.

By which book?  (Not being overly controversial here, just wanting an
explanation)

 RC> Bobby has been out to control the configs of others for quite a while
 RC> now, you see he doesnt understand ones ability to use AREAFIX to pick
 RC> and choose their echoes, if Bobby is pulling from his uplink what he
 RC> used to pull from me, he is only really pulling less than a 1/3 or a
 RC> 1/4 of the backbone and thats the Z1B rendition to boot. He must be
 RC> able to control what he receives, yet doesnt understand that others
 RC> possess the same ability he has?

What he doesn't understand is that he is not going to control what I distribute
without me questioning the reason *before* I cut the echo from my configs.  I
am very uncomfortable with a scenario where I see BQ requesting an echo be
removed from distribution, and when I check I find that there *is* traffic in
the echo other than Moderator messages (rules, etc) *and* that the echo was not
in the echolist for several months, and BQ picked it up for the obvious express
purpose of killing it.

In view of these circumstances I intend to ask the other members of the
Pan-American Backbone for a review of BQs tactics and a discussion regarding
his actions.

Last week it was 50-some echoes, now another one;  I wonder how many people
he's cut off from one another by dumping their echo?



--- McGuffey's Reader                                 GoldED UNREG
 * Origin:    (1:3613/1275.1)

.