Subj : Removal To : Tony Campbell From : Malcolm Miles Date : Mon Sep 10 2001 12:57 pm On Sep 09, 2001 Tony Campbell wrote to Todd Sullivan: TC> The trademark violation was that Bobby is not a member, and used TC> the associations full trademarked name on the echolist entry. TC> Unauthorized use of a trademark is NOT a grey area, even for TC> non-commercial or hobbiest. A trademark gives the owner an exclusive right to use the mark "on or in connection with the goods or services set forth in the registration". It does not give the owner rights over goods or services or echo names not included in the registration. So there can be Apple Computers and Apple Records and an APPLE echo, all happily co-existing. I could set up a business called USIIA selling pet tortoises and create a pet tortoise echo called USIIA without infringing on any other USIIA trademark (unless they too, sold pet tortoises). Best wishes, Malcolm --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+ * Origin: Tardis BBS +61 3 9819 7093 (3:633/260) .