Subj : FTS-0001 To : Steve Quarrella From : Werner Dworak Date : Sat Feb 03 2001 10:32 pm Hello Steve! SQ> Personally, I think the FTS-1 thing we've been discussing is more of an SQ> attempt to police our current ranks and scare off existing sysops Indeed. On the one hand, there must be a common denominater to bring about communication. But practically, this is EMSI nowadays, with YOOHOO and FTS-1 still permitted. SQ> come on, when's the last time you dealt with a rash of systems using a SQ> proprietary protocol with which hardly anybody could connect? If they run an common protocol, too, there is no problem. Real incompatible systems didn't show up the last time. SQ> when I think we should spend our time on the ISDN/IP side of things, SQ> luring THOSE hobbyists into Fidonet like we lured sysops of the good ol' SQ> POTS systems during Fidonet's heyday. Indeed. And done the right way, ist is real enrichment and no danger. SQ> It may be facile for me to say this, but we sure don't get a whole lot of SQ> publicity. :-/ Sad to say. WD>> ISDN was exotic, it was not a good idea to be only reachable by ISDN. WD>> Now in western Europe, it is no problem. SQ> It's so cost-prohibitive, at least in my area, that it's uncommon. Here it's the opposite. An ISDN basic access (two channels) is considerably cheaper than two POTS lines. SQ> Today, it's DSL, where available (and not where I live :-/). DSL is coming here too, but it's only in ther beginning ans only avaliabble in a few big towns. To the worse, the German Telekom is the only provider, it had made much advertising and cannot deviver, even where it is principally available. SQ> I started an IP-only net here in Region 19 Are all nodes IP-only or are enough nodes with both POTS and IP? SQ> with his comment that we should be spending more time working on who CAN SQ> connect instead of who cannot. True, that's most important. SQ> [ZMH] The only time I think it's critical is when you're a coordinator SQ> and you're trying to determine if someone is on the air or off the air. Indeeed, But I cann check at other time too if he tells me. Is the nodelist flag for online hours common in Z1? SQ> It's only fair to be able to say "Well, I tried you during ZMH for the SQ> past ten days, and got nothing, so Down you go. But I'll be happy to SQ> remove Down from your nodelisting for the next nodelist." That's a way to go. SQ> It's unfair to anybody that they should have to chase you down and dial SQ> you 24/7 to see whether you're still around. Indeed. greetings, Werner --- GED 3.0.1-dam3 * Origin: CCD Ulm Voice 49-7304-919089 oder 96060 (2:2487/9504) .