Subj : Re: Family History To : JAY EMRIE From : Alan Zisman Date : Sun Oct 02 2005 11:55 pm -=> JAY EMRIE wrote to ALAN ZISMAN <=- JE> By the way, I have been looking a bit on copyright laws and found the JE> following: JE> http://arl.cni.org/info/frn/copy/timeline.html JE> 1790: books could be copyrighted for 14 yrs + another 14 year extension JE> 1831: now 28 years + another 14 year extension JE> 1909: 28 years + another 28 year extension JE> 1976: all copyrights (even previous copyrights) life of author plus 50 JE> years. JE> Since the author of my book was likely in his 40s (at least) when the JE> book was written/published in 1890, that would mean the copyright on my JE> book (IF it had ever been copyrighted - which it hadn't) would have JE> expired sometime around 1980: 1890 plus est. 40 more of his life = 1930 JE> plus another 50 years of extended copyright = 1980. If the book was published in 1890, it would have entered the public domain 28 years later in 1918 whether the author was alive or not. As well, in 1890 in the US (unlike most other countries), to get copyright protection a work had to be registered with the US government, and a copyright date and (c) symbol had to be included... so it sounds like your book is safely in the public domain for both of those reasons. JE> I didn't research much past that. I thought it was unnecessary. I was JE> just curious. JE> When we used to present the San Antonio International Photographic JE> Exhibition slide pictures we used copyrighted music to accompany the JE> slide presentation. As long as there was NO charge for admission and JE> was nonprofit we did not have to pay any royalties. I don't believe that's a general rule, though the copyright holder of that particular piece may have been OK with it. Lots of public performances are not monitored by the performance rights organizations-- who tend to focus on radio stations and the major commercial venues. Your typical bar band, performing cover tunes in a small club generally ignores such fees; larger venues pay blanket fees to the performance rights organizations in lieu of detailed reporting. The various organizations then have complex formulae that end up producing royalty cheques for their members-- which may or may not have any relation to reality. Similarly, I'm a member of 'Access Copyright', a Canadian organization that negotiates with universities, school systems, public libraries, etc to license them allowing photocopying of written works by Access Copyright members. (I qualify as a technology writer)... organizations negotiating licenses get blanket permission and don't need to provide detailed records of what articles have been copied. I get an annual royalty cheque and am relatively happy... but I have no idea how many of my articles are actually used in these ways (though I've gotten feedback over the years indicating that at some things I've written have shown up as University-level handouts). JE> What really struck me, however, was how much simpler and easier the JE> work of the family (there were at least 50 family members - judging JE> from the preface - involved in the compilation of the book at the time) JE> would have been had computers been available at that time! EVERYTHING JE> was likely hand written - the typewriter was in its infancy. I wonder JE> just how long the printers/typesetters worked on it before it was JE> actually printed? It was sent to the printers in 1890 and actually JE> printed in 1891. The desktop-publishing revolution of the mid-1980s, with the enabling technologies of personal computers + graphic user interfaces + laser printers + DTP software was a HUGE change. I was involved in a a monthly newspaper project in the late 1970s/early 1980s-- just prior to this 'revolution' and even though it was produced with photolithography-- a major step towards speed and convenience compared to the hot lead type of earlier years, getting the paper out involved sending typewritten copy to be typeset in long columns; we laid these out by hand, using hot wax to attach them to broadsize-sheets of paper, then noted errors; we sent out the corrections and when they came back (the next day), we cut these up and waxed them over top of the originals... hopefully, the new word didn't fall off or get crooked before the page was photographed in order to produce the lithography plate. Now it all gets done on someone's desktop computer. .... Inet mail to: alan at zisman dot ca --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.46 * Origin: COMM Port OS/2 juge.com 204.89.247.1 (281) 980-9671 (1:106/2000) .