Subj : Re: M vs P. To : JEAN PARROT From : Alan Zisman Date : Mon Sep 26 2005 09:55 am -=> JEAN PARROT wrote to ALAN ZISMAN <=- JP> Hello Alan, we were saying ! AZ> Generalizations are dangerous and almost always incorrect. JP> Thank you Alan for this very sensible reply to my "flying off JP> the handle" post. Your line above tells a much better story. This JP> G-41 has an icon that if 2-clicked, will go through the paces and JP> look for and ( hopefully ) connect to any AP. I have it set to do JP> its thing on bootup and it does. My daughter who got the exact TP, JP> did not set hers up and she is on the level with the average user. I JP> will attend to this when I get back home. JP> At times, I can not see the forest for the trees. I got JP> mesmerized by the fact that the PW for the firewall was not JP> available. When my friend left with his G4, I got to think about JP> this and it said that the FW was de-activated so it was not the JP> problem. The G4 could receive but not TX. I should have looked at JP> another setting but the FW PW had me locked up in a line of thoughts JP> that prevented me to seek further. I should have left that FW thing JP> slide and look elsewhere. JP> What is your opinion on this ? Some mail came in but could not JP> be replied. I did some very short replies but when hitting the Send JP> now button, a dialogue came up saying : Sorry but.... ! JP> Hinsight is wonderful ! The AP here is on channel 1, I bet JP> that the G4 searched for it, went through that channel, quick enough JP> it got the incoming mail but then went and sat on channel 11, for an JP> unknown reason, to me anyway as when I looked at the settings, it JP> said that it was on 11. I just checked and here, I am on Channel 1. JP> Where could I have gone to set the G4 to 1 ? JP> I am changing my opinion. See remark about my daughter above, JP> this one is not the MS coder. I now see that because I have JP> associated as you mentioned, with PC people that are here and they JP> really know what side is up, then I got biased. Tell me if you go to JP> some echo where Mac people share the same way as we here on FIDO. 1) The Mac FIDO echo seems pretty dead... but there is a lot of helping going on in a number of Mac-oriented Usenet groups... I daily check: alt.mac, alt.macintosh, comp.sys.mac, & comp.sys.macintosh -- though there are a bunch of other Mac Usenet groups with more focussed topics. They are even friendly to the various Windows users asking for Mac-help. 2) Without wanting to go into detail about Mac OS X, a VERY GOOD feature (which I gather MS is planning to implement in Win Vista-- hence making it on-topic here (ha!)) is that even if a user is logged on with an Administrator-level account, they actually work with a lower-level of access; then whenever additional access is needed-- installing software that affects the operating system, for instance, or changing security-type settings, they are asked for a password... this is the same password as is used at log-on. So that's probably what was happening with the Firewall; Your Powerbook user SHOULD know this single password. This is a more secure system than is the case with WinXP, where most users work in Administrator accounts, but then anything is permitted with minimal verification. That permits malware (etc) to install itself without the user's awareness. And if a user is set up in a non-administrator account, too often they find that they can't install software or even that installed software refuses to run. It's a real problem in Win2000/xp. 3) If you want specific Mac OS X help from me -- such as how to change the WiFi channel, please email me. I would be happy to help, but not in this echo. .... Inet mail to: alan at zisman dot ca --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.46 * Origin: COMM Port OS/2 juge.com 204.89.247.1 (281) 980-9671 (1:106/2000) .