Subj : Re: Live CD To : ALAN ZISMAN From : CHARLES ANGELICH Date : Tue Sep 13 2005 05:14 pm 123c778e70bb win95 Hello Alan - GH>> To stay on topic ("Windows") I argued for Linux at the GH>> Senior Center computer lab ... with a GUI setup just like GH>> Windows. The answer was : "If you're gonna do that, why GH>> not just go Windows!" Alien mindset! AA>> A sad commentary indeed. :( MS has succeeded in AA>> brainwashing them to think no alternatives exist. AA>> But what was your answer to their question? AZ> There is, in fact, a bit of a debate going on right now AZ> about how to increase use of Linux as a desktop OS (rather AZ> than as a server OS)... one side is arguing that Linux AZ> needs to become more Windows-like. The other side suggests AZ> (as in GH's anecdote) that if Linux becomes more AZ> Windows-like, then users will see it as a cheap Windows AZ> knock-off, and feel like they might as well stick to 'the AZ> real thing'. There is a third group that believes it is the lack of application software that discourages people who consider changing over to Linux. I consider myself a member of that third group. re: "More Windows-like" Whatever Windows has managed to do well or even just acclimate the typical personal computer user to would have to be addressed by any OS attempting to go mainstream. Avoiding the pitfalls of releasing unfinished applications, the constant need to patch the OS, and maintain a reasonably stable system is also a factor in NOT being more "Windows-like". re: "stick to 'the real thing'" This is probably what stunned Linspire (Lindows). The marketing made it sound too much like a Windows clone even though that was never really true. Microsoft is in a transitional phase attempting to stem the tide of pirated copies of it's software. Users often perceive the need to authenticate the installation as 'accusitory' and an attempt to invade their space even though, I am told, the process is comparatively well organized by Microsoft. If Microsoft continues in this direction it will drive many away from the use of Windows and windows software. To where I do not know but one suggestion is to APPLE. There are other OS backstage that could step forward if they perceive enough of a weakness at Microsoft. OS9, QNX, and others who have had some commercial successes in the past and there is Oracle who swore they wanted to knock Microsoft down a few notches. Google is putting together an impressive team of experienced people and is often rumored to be considering jumping into the fray. This _could_ get interesting at any point that Microsoft stumbles and falls and can't get back on it's feet quick enough. Let the beatings commence!!! > > , , > o/ Charles.Angelich \o , > <| |> __o/ > / > USA, MI < \ __\__ --- * ATP/16bit 2.31 * .... DOS the Ghost in the Machine! http://www.devedia.com/dosghost/ * Origin: Try Our Web Based QWK: DOCSPLACE.ORG (1:123/140) .