Subj : Re: Lost software license To : Geo. From : Rich Date : Mon Apr 02 2001 03:09 am From: "Rich" <@> This doesn't sound right. My new PCs have come with a physical = license attached to the getting started manual. Whose machines don't = include even a license? Rich "Geo." wrote in message = news:3ac85443$1@w3.nls.net... Many places not only don't deliver a paper license, they don't even = give you an actual Windows CD, just some stupid restore CD. Geo. "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:3ac80cc4@w3.nls.net... When you sell software you must deliver the license as that is = what you are really selling. If you buy software with a license you = very likely being cheated into paying for pirated software. In regard to keeping a copy of the license instead of the license = itself you defeat the purpose as you can make a copy and sell your = originals claiming that you still have the license because you kept a = copy. Heck, you could try selling copies of licenses. Dell and HP put the stickers on tower PCs on the side. These = contain the numbers you give them when you call for support. I think = they may also deliver a license certificate with the same numbers. Rich "John Cuccia" wrote in message = news:685fct8c652onncv8dnefvqgn2f5j3b7mu@4ax.com... On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:18:27 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote: > An invoice doesn't prove anything more than you were once = billed for software.=20 It can also be used to prove that it was paid for. =20 > You could have returned it or sold it. =20 And kept the MS/OEM paperwork, which is just as much proof of = nothingn as you claim an invoice to be. > If you can keep the invoice you can keep the license = certificate instead and throw out the invoice. I suspect many = businesses discard invoices once paid and at most keep an electronic = copy. What do you have against electronic records? It doesn't matter if = the invoice copy is paper or a scanned in image. That should be all = that is required. > I was expecting something like this. So, why can't your asset = database also include information on the licenses for all software, not = just Windows, that you have installed on this asset? If you are putting = on additional stickers, why not include the all information you want = handy? All the stickers contain is the sequential asset ID and the bar = code that makes it machine readable. =20 Our asset database will one day include up-to-date software = licensing information, including proof-of-purchase, number of licenses, and = the internal org that "owns" those licenses. We recently = centralized procurement operations, we have a relatively new enterprise = agreement with Microsoft that eliminates the need for us to track individual license numbers for your software, and we have a dedicated asset managers, but most smaller companies don't have the resources or = the numbers of machines/users to make something like that worthwhile. Until last year, each business unit in my company was responsible = for its own purchasing and license tracking; we were all more like smallish companies (couple of hundred users) trying to keep track = of stuff and you definitely don't make it convenient or easy. > I've not seen a recent laptop with one. On the desktop = machine they were in the same location that Dell and HP put the stickers = with their unique ID numbers. Where do Dell and HP put their stickers? --- XP Toss HTML Stripper v0.3.5 * Origin: Barktopia Gating Project (1:379/45) .