Subj : Re: Lost software license
To   : John Cuccia
From : Rich
Date : Sun Apr 01 2001 03:26 pm

From: "Rich" <@>


   When you sell software you must deliver the license as that is what =
you are really selling.  If you buy software with a license you very = likely 
being cheated into paying for pirated software.

   In regard to keeping a copy of the license instead of the license =
itself you defeat the purpose as you can make a copy and sell your = originals 
claiming that you still have the license because you kept a = copy.  Heck, you 
could try selling copies of licenses.

   Dell and HP put the stickers on tower PCs on the side.  These contain =
the numbers you give them when you call for support.  I think they may = also 
deliver a license certificate with the same numbers.

Rich

  "John Cuccia" <jcuccia@bigfoot.com> wrote in message =
news:685fct8c652onncv8dnefvqgn2f5j3b7mu@4ax.com...
  On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:18:27 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote:

  >   An invoice doesn't prove anything more than you were once billed =
for software.=20

  It can also be used to prove that it was paid for.  =20

  >  You could have returned it or sold it. =20

  And kept the MS/OEM paperwork, which is just as much proof of nothingn
  as you claim an invoice to be.

  >  If you can keep the invoice you can keep the license certificate =
instead and throw out the invoice.  I suspect many businesses discard = 
invoices once paid and at most keep an electronic copy.

  What do you have against electronic records?  It doesn't matter if the
  invoice copy is paper or a scanned in image.   That should be all that
  is required.

  >   I was expecting something like this.  So, why can't your asset =
database also include information on the licenses for all software, not = just 
Windows, that you have installed on this asset?  If you are putting = on 
additional stickers, why not include the all information you want = handy?

  All the stickers contain is the sequential asset ID and the bar code
  that makes it machine readable. =20

  Our asset database will one day include up-to-date software licensing
  information, including proof-of-purchase, number of licenses, and the
  internal org that "owns" those licenses.    We recently centralized
  procurement operations, we have a relatively new enterprise agreement
  with Microsoft that eliminates the need for us to track individual
  license numbers for your software, and we have a dedicated asset
  managers, but most smaller companies don't have the resources or the
  numbers of machines/users to make something like that worthwhile.

  Until last year, each business unit in my company was responsible for
  its own purchasing and license tracking; we were all more like
  smallish companies (couple of hundred users) trying to keep track of
  stuff and you definitely don't make it convenient or easy.

  >   I've not seen a recent laptop with one.  On the desktop machine =
they were in the same location that Dell and HP put the stickers with = their 
unique ID numbers.

  Where do Dell and HP put their stickers?




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