Subj : Re: X-programs To : comp.os.linux From : Steve Ackman Date : Thu Sep 02 2004 05:22 pm On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:43:51 +0200, Sybren Stuvel wrote: > > Steve Ackman enlightened us with: >> Seems easier to just do >> >> TTY1: xinit $(which xterm) > > Yep, a lot easier. Didn't know that one, thanx! I used to use 'xinit $(which )' all the time running X apps (especially Netscape 3.01) on an AMD K-75 with 8 MB RAM. Once I upped it to 12 MB RAM, I threw fvwm2/anotherlevel/lesstif into the mix without much of a performance hit... a very useful wm with the clean look reminiscent of GEOS on the C64. ;-) I also used xinit from a text menu on my wife's old 200 Mhz 64MB RAM laptop to run everything she wanted. She's not much for multitasking, so one-at-a-time, as long as she didn't have to remember any commands, was great with her. Boot up, hit one of A through H and she was in business. All she cared about was browsing, word processing and a game or two, and she didn't want to twiddle her thumbs waiting for a DE to come up. (We actually tried running KDE on that machine, but it took about 7 minutes from power on to first mouse click) When I was tweaking things on her machine, I might want to run more than one X app at a time, so I'd do something like run first app from TTY1: $ xinit $(which netscape) and say download a pdf file, then run 2nd app from TTY2: $ xinit $(which acroread) -- :1 Switch back and forth from netscape to acroread with ALT-CTRL-F8 and ALT-CTRL-F7. No window manager required and you could still potentially run up to 6 X apps at the same time. (On most distros that'd be TTY1-6 and F7-F12). Anyway, just a bit of reminiscing for the OP interested in running X stuff without WM or DE. -- Steve Ackman http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need beans?) http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff) .