Subj : Re: Progamming language for hackers?
To   : alt.hackers.malicious,comp.programming
From : Juuso Hukkanen
Date : Mon Oct 10 2005 04:25 pm

On 9 Oct 2005 11:50:25 -0700, makc.the.great@gmail.com wrote:

>Juuso Hukkanen wrote:
>> 1) why user must write those includes. We were easily able to make all
>> the required includes to become automatically included, why can't C
>> standard committee allow/do the same.

>others call it an effort to minimize building time. do you know where
>"nightly build" is coming from? because even if you include only
>necessary stuff, some software takes all night to build. even if it
>takes 2 minutes instead of 5, if I re-compile my stuff 100 times a day,
>it would save me 300 minutes of pointless screen-staring.


Pre-pre-processor only includes necessary stuff and it eliminates all
other items very fast. Should not take more than 1-2 extra seconds on
an average software projects. How ? 
1) well, we list all source files in users project then
2) scan function names from those files

We have a huge (dictionary kind of) sorted list of 
all the functions and function alias names. 

3) Then function names are fread’ed into memory 
4) finally some binary searching; even from a file with 1,000,000
function / alias names, it takes 20 jumps to find & collect a correct
include (with correct includes) to any user given function. 

Details in sources:
http://tele3d.com/t3d/subversion.htm

(It is like a spell checker; got that idea from a programming language
shootout which checked existence of all words in a 350 kB dictionary
file against a similar 350 kB dictionaly file in less than 0.8 seconds
http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:wzJO2qrnVq8J:www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/bench/spellcheck/+doug+shootout+programming+%22spell+checker%22&hl=fi
)

Ok, the issue would be much easier, if I’d just say:
We have and are developing a punch of utilities which can be used in C
or C++ programs. Tools include GUI, garbage collection and a certain
logic which enables logical programming even based on user’s native
language.

Hey, that gave me an idea, there are NGs like #comp.ai.nat-lang and
#comp.lang.functional I go and harass them about the usefulness of
this 2 page language / dialect thing.

Thanks Makc & other hackers

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