Subj : Re: do serious programmers have a life? To : comp.lang.c++,comp.programming From : Randy Howard Date : Fri Sep 23 2005 10:38 pm Phlip wrote (in article ): > If you were a boss, what reasons could you give to defend enforced overtime? I have been the boss, and I haven't ever 'enforced' overtime, partly due to semantics, since I have never wanted 'by the hour' programmers. I once inherited a couple of contractors, who I didn't trust and wasn't happy with the work of, so I just let them sit in their office and do whatever until their timer expired, as I had no use for them and going through the red tape to eject them early wasn't worthwhile. Mainly though, I rewarded good results, period. If you think that leaving at 4:30 is best for you, and all of your work is done and you aren't leaving your coworkers out to dry, because you can get more work done in 6 hours if you go home and sleep for 12, more power to you. If you find that working 7 days a week 10 hours a day keeps you 'in the zone' and more productive, that's good too. On the other hand, no matter what hours you work, if you are the source of the problems rather than the solutions, then you're out of here, and good riddance. If you come into the office every day whining about 'comp time' and how many personal days, vacation days, sick leave days, etc. all the time, then I have no use for you, because you are not a professional employee, you are a wage slave just there because you have to be to eat. I always searched for and kept around those that wanted to be there, because they loved the work, not because they loved the check and were putting up with the work. -- Randy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR) .