Subj : Re: GNU Public Licences Revisited (again)
To   : comp.programming
From : David Golden
Date : Wed Sep 21 2005 01:38 pm

lilburne wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_value
> 
First freaking sentence of that article:

"In Marxist political economy, any labor-product has a value and [AND!]
a use value, and if it is traded as a commodity in markets, it
additionally has an exchange value, most often expressed as a
money-price."

Later:

"Even so, Marx carefully defines the production process both as a labour
process creating use-values, and a valorisation process creating new
value."

A use-value is just one kind of value in that theory (not a theory I
even believe in, of course, but you were still pretty wrong even in a
marxist context. Remember, I regard value as a subjective attitude,
pretty much as per http://www.mises.org/story/1349 )

> Your denial of value outside of the material is Marxist through and
> through.

Well, nothing unphysical exists, I confidently predict you'll never show
me something that doesn't have a physical basis.

The act of creation of a thing is NOT the thing being created. I don't
deny either are potentially valuable, though.

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