Subj : Re: GNU Public Licences Revisited (again) To : comp.programming From : lilburne Date : Wed Sep 21 2005 12:27 pm David Golden wrote: > Antoon Pardon wrote: > > >>>See here is the Marxism, the absolute refusal to acknowledge that >>>anything has any value other other than the material. >> >>You are putting words in my mouth. > > > He's also just trolling, given Marx's labour theory of value. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_theory_of_value wiki *snort* read deeper: "The utility of a thing makes it a use value. But this utility is not a thing of air. Being limited by the physical properties of the commodity, it has no existence apart from that commodity." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_value In any case: "The phantoms formed in the human brain are also, necessarily, sublimates of their material life process, which is empirically verifiable and bound to material premises. Morality, religion, metaphysics, all the rest of ideology and their corresponding forms of consciousness, thus no longer retain the semblance of independence. They have no history, no development; but men, developing their material production and their material intercourse, alter, along with this, their real existence, their thinking, and the products of their thinking. Life is not determined by consciousness, but consciousness by life." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism Your denial of value outside of the material is Marxist through and through. .