Subj : Re: Do all programming languages use files? To : comp.programming From : mwojcik Date : Tue Sep 06 2005 02:46 pm In article , Patricia Shanahan writes: > Michael Wojcik wrote: > > In article <11hd0uai83b1091@corp.supernews.com>, "Baxter" writes: > > > >>Still, Palm and various microcontrollers use C and have NO file I/O. > > > > The standard clearly explains the differences between hosted and > > freestanding implementations, and we have been discussing the former; > > that was made explicit in several messages. > > I think the point is that the freestanding version of standard C is a > programming language, does not have an inherent concept of "file", and > there are real implementations of C that do not add "file" to the language. And my point was that *that* point had been made as far back as my original reply to the OP, and is entirely unrelated to the argument Scott and I had been having. Baxter's comment was redundant and irrelevant at that point in the discussion. Scott's claim was that C does not include file I/O *even for hosted implementations*. The argument is entirely concerned with whether the C standard library is "part of the language". As such, it clearly applies only to hosted implementations. > Given that, the answer to the subject line question is "No". No one has yet claimed otherwise. -- Michael Wojcik michael.wojcik@microfocus.com She felt increasingly (vision or nightmare?) that, though people are important, the relations between them are not, and that in particular too much fuss has been made over marriage; centuries of carnal embracement, yet man is no nearer to understanding man. -- E M Forster .