Subj : Categories? resume references? (was: How much should I charge f...)
To   : comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp,comp.programming
From : rem642b
Date : Wed Aug 24 2005 11:28 pm

> From: "David" <FlyLikeAnEa...@United.Com>
> I noticed your resumes don't include an indication of expertise in
> the various categories you provide.

Which kinds of categories? Various programming languages? Various
platforms? Various application areas?

What indication would you like in each category? Years experience?
Specific major software I've written?

> I went over to your web resume last night and tried to check out your
> languages and C++. There was no info or C++ category.

I'm not sure what you mean by the "info" category.

I list C++ on my very latest (2005.June) resume because I took a
beginning C++ class this past Winter. Naturally it wouldn't be listed
on any resume prior to this year, including the most recently uploaded
resume which is the 2003 rearrangement of the 1998 resume and the 2004
MicroSoft Word formattings of that rearrangement.

The only version of the 2005.June resume, other than customized
versions I posted the other day, is the one I'm in the middle of
editing right now. There's no backup for it. Do you want to see it
mid-edit?

> When looking for someone's resume I'll start with a few simple
> buzzwords like language but I'd really like to see an indication of
> the level you are at in them.

You're conflating two concepts here: How much general experience and
expertise I have at programming in general, and what I've done in each
of the many particular langauges I've used. In the case of Java, I have
many years of experience in Lisp that can be converted rather easily to
Java ability, but only a little work I've done specifically in Java. So
would refuse to hire me for Java programming, even though I have all
those years of experience in a pre-Java langauge almost directly
applicable to Java, and I find Java almost natural and easy to program
in that way, just because that pre-Java language wasn't exactly Java?

> Obviously you also want to list references to items you would like to
> use.

Your English is escaping me there. Could you please re-phrase it so I
might understand it?

> Sending any of your large resume references is both overkill and an
> excuse for a prospective employer to never have the need to talk to
> you.

I'm in a dilemma. If I don't include all the buzzwords the junion staff
member is looking for when screening resumes, nobody who knows the
slightest thing about software will ever get a chance to see my resume.
But the list of buzzwords (posted in alphabetical order earlier this
evening) is very long, and I don't know how to avoid it seeming like
overkill without taking a chance the very word the junior staff member
absolutely needs to see might be missing. How can I guess which
keywords will be needed and which won't, so that I can include only the
former?

Also I don't know what you mean by "resume references".

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