Subj : Re: Not debugging? To : comp.programming,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp From : Phlip Date : Wed Aug 24 2005 03:45 pm Tim X wrote: > I'm guessing he was referring to the irritating development of > programmers who are not able to debug code without a high level IDE > which includes a debugger which allows them to step/trace through the > code one line at a time and watch what happens to variables in a watch > window. No. I'm talking about developers who don't write unit tests as they write code. These provide the option of using Undo, instead of debugging, when the tests fail unexpectedly. This leads to a development cycle with highly bug-resistant code, and without proactive debugging to implement new functions. Yes, you still need the debugger - typically for legacy situations - and you still need elaborate debugging skills. New code stays ahead of them. The idea that we can implement without debugging is incomprehensible to most programmers. But that really is what I meant. -- Phlip http://www.greencheese.org/ZeekLand <-- NOT a blog!!! .