Subj : Re: Industry Calls for More Foreign Programmers To : comp.programming From : Flavius Vespasianus Date : Mon Aug 15 2005 04:14 am Brock Candid wrote in news:3C2EC1VT38579.4146296296@reece.net.au: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Flavius Vespasianus wrote: >> >> Brock Candid wrote in >> news:TO47WYU638578.3674652778@reece.net.au: >> >> > >> > Of course, there's a hidden agenda. I'm just confused on just what >> > it is. They say there are no US programmers, which I don't believe >> > is true. They say they want, we need, innovation, but they seek to >> > off shore, and H1B the programming market to death with cookie >> > cutter programmers. I make no sense of it. The only thing I can >> > think is that they want yes men technologists, and are afraid of US >> > born techies controlling the industry, as I don't think the money >> > difference between US born, and off shore/h1b is all *that* >> > different. >> >> Also notice: >> >> Employers Importing foreign workers ==> Free Trade >> Consumers importing legally copied material from foreign countries >> ==> No Free trade >> Consumers importing drugs made in the U.S. from foreign countries ==> >> No Free Trade > > Well, I don't want to jump to conclusions here, so I'll ask you: > What, exactly, is your point? > The point is there is no such thing as "free trade". What the politicians sell as "free trade" is a manipulation of the system to benefit certain constituencies (ie campaign contributors). When it benefits those giving campaign cash we open the borders. When it benefits consumers at the expense of campaign cash, we close the borders. .