Subj : Re: curve for verbosity in a language To : comp.programming From : pantagruel Date : Sat Aug 06 2005 10:59 am I don't think that LOC is verbosity, however your suggestion is close, how about: if the character count between two programs doing the same task differ then the program with the greater character count is verbose in comparison to the first with each character being a point of verbosity. I think this should include a normalization of whitespace. Performance differences in the task between the programs affect the verbosity, the question then is how is a difference in performance calculated into program verbosity. At that point one could begin to make reasonable statements such as language x has been shown to be verbose in comparison to language y for problems of type z. .