Subj : Re: curve for verbosity in a language
To   : comp.programming
From : Jon Harrop
Date : Tue Aug 02 2005 11:45 am

pantagruel wrote:
> A lot of languages can seem 'overly' verbose. If you worry that I might
> be discussing your favorite language, I probably am. One thing I have
> noticed is you never seem to have a language in which the simple
> examples of programs in the language are very verbose but the verbosity
> diminishes as one makes the program more complicated.
> 
> Can anyone think of a language where verbosity in fundamentals of the
> program leads to succinctness in the higher levels.
> 
> of course verbosity is bound to be relative in nature.

You may be interested in my comparison of Java, C++, OCaml and SML for 
performance and verbosity at implementing four progressively more optimised 
versions of a ray tracer:

  http://www.ffconsultancy.com/free/ray_tracer/languages.html

C++ code does expand more slowly than Java code but OCaml and SML are always 
much better.

-- 
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
Objective CAML for Scientists
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists

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