Subj : Re: programming job market in bay area in US To : comp.programming From : rem642b Date : Fri Jul 29 2005 08:14 am > From: "Michael Jxrgensen" > You appear to be considering jobs programming for MS products and > GUI In the case of MS products, I was just following the advice that I shouldn't reject myself from a job that is offered, I should respond to the job ad with my best attempt and I might get lucky that my 22 years of programming experience plus my past two years of MS-Windows experience (at De Anza college while taking courses there) might possibly be enough that they'd decide to hire me despite my lack of 3-5 years paid MS experience. I.e. apply for anything where I even half qualify, and let them make the accept/reject decision. In the case of GUI, I really do have a lot of experience in that area, that is generally setting up forms etc. for user interaction and writing event-driven code to handle all the sorts of user interactions that might occur. So I really am generally qualified for such work. I just don't have experience with very specific GUI frameworks such as JBoss because neither I nor DeAnza college has enough money to purchase one of those to practice with. > Is that really what you want to be working on? I want to be writing software, or something else where I consider my skills to be sufficient that I would be worth paying. I don't care what language it is, although I'd prefer Lisp or Java or PHP if I had the choice, but really I'd do whatever they wanted within reason. > By the way, what *do* you have experience in? Have you looked at any of my dozen-plus resumes yet? http://members.tripod.com/~MaasInfo/SeekJob/Resumes.html If you did, you'd see a large number of assembly/machine languages, a large number of high-level languages, a large number of application areas, many hundreds of individual programs or utility packages. > I'm still completely clueless as to what the 22 years of programming > have been spent on, even though I've read most of your posts. How many of these have you read? http://tinyurl.com/b6qz5 Most of *them*?? All of them?? Half of them?? To tell the truth, I don't believe you. I don't believe you've read hardly any of what I've posted. And it's because you haven't read what I posted again and again, that you have no idea what how I've spent 22 years programming. Sorry, but that's how it looks from here. If you've read all those articles I referred you to, and you followed the link to my resumes, and you've read all my resumes, and still you have no idea what I've done, then I'm at a loss to explain. My resumes might be undecorative, but surely they must convey some idea of my experience, more than you admit in the quote above. Did you even look at my most recent 1.8 years? http://www.rawbw.com/~rem/WAP/SeekJobAccom.html That at least gives you *some* idea of *part* of my experience, so how can you say you're "clueless" as to what I've done without at least qualifiying it per "more than two years ago"? .