Subj : Re: Are programmers like this in the real world? To : comp.programming From : Chris McDonald Date : Tue Jul 26 2005 05:23 am Ben Pfaff writes: >Jonathan Bartlett writes: >> What is amazing, though, is that many of >> these people actually make it through some fairly difficult >> courses. You sometimes have to wonder what the grading criteria was >> for these programs, and the amount of cheating that is occurring. >> I've seen some complete idiots graduate from decent CS programs. >A colleague of mine here at Stanford found 3 students cheating >out of a class of 80 that he taught during spring quarter. One >of those students had actually turned in the same plagiarized >code the previous quarter (and had been found out that quarter as >well). >I hope this isn't typical. I'm not sure if I'm missing any possible saracism in this post, but, no, Ben's experience is *far from* typical. I can unequivocably state that plagiarism rates in many university CS courses, particularly in the first or second years, are far closer to 20%-30% of all students. It's no big secret that it occurs. ______________________________________________________________________________ Dr Chris McDonald E: chris@csse.uwa.edu.au Computer Science & Software Engineering W: http://www.csse.uwa.edu.au/~chris The University of Western Australia, M002 T: +618 6488 2533 Crawley, Western Australia, 6009 F: +618 6488 1089 .