Subj : Re: extreme programming (thoughts) To : comp.programming From : Phlip Date : Mon Jul 25 2005 07:57 pm wee wrote: > > Inspiration causes bugs. That's the bane of all software engineering. > > Without inspiration, we wouldn't have software engineering, and we > wouldn't be having this kind of conversation. > > Philip, can you see how the statements you made above actually sound? > They have a propaganda feel to them; a little touch of control and > demand to conform . . . Okay, you individualist you. The next time you go in for surgery, tell the doctor not to worry about scrubbing down. > > But this isn't all about you, you know... > > Maybe that's the problem here. XP is a group activity, not a solo > creation. In XP, because it's all about groups, you draw down the level > of excellence you produce. So, you'll have mediocre programmers writing > mediocre code, and that's fine I guess. I was just positing that I > wouldn't want to be a part of that world, ever. Thanks, but no thanks. This happens when individuals discuss risk. Without risk, we can cheerfully discuss inspiration and motivation and individuality all day. Risk changes everything, including what conversations like these sound like. While one party remains in denial of risks, the other must sound a little pushy; a little cautionary. There are other ways to discuss these things. A Jedi can feel the Force flowing thru him! -- Phlip http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?ZeekLand .