Subj : Re: Windows Procedural Programming To : comp.programming From : Joe Butler Date : Mon Jul 25 2005 07:41 am stuff about winmain, main, debugging, consoles, etc. acknowledged. Ruby: So, I can ship Ruby.exe (no installer?) and a text (script) file, and that's an app? I'll look into it - it sounds like it might be useful to knock up a few simple things quickly. Sounds a bit like HTA for use with Internet Explorer, though. I've never understood programmers that say, "what!? you didn't use widget X and instead wrote 60 lines of straighforward code yourself [that you have direct control over and no licence issue or 3rd party bugs to worry about and no documentation to read, and no 3rd party libraries to install on new development machines - and your project is entirely self-contained and can be backed up as a single zip file that will have no dependency when unzipped again at some future date.]". These simple libraries are the sorts of things that I 'tweak' when I'm in a dead-zone and need a break from the hard stuff. So, in a way, I find it relaxing. More relaxing that I would find going thru documentation for widget X. .