Subj : Re: extreme programming (thoughts) To : comp.programming From : matt Date : Fri Jul 22 2005 09:34 am > [snipped it - it was quite funny in places!] thanks. i try to keep things light w/ humor. sure, i can see PP being helpful on occasions, but if i had to do it *all the time* to get those occasional moments...no thanks. and yes, at my org its *all the time*. ive hinted at the situtation here, but my org hired 1) a team to come in and do the xp 2) coaches in the beginning. now they are continuing the project on their own and bringing some of our FT people into the project. this team is in a room, have no cubes, and just do xp. ive recently been assigned to it. i can concede that the problem may be in their inexperience. my biggest issue is w/ the lack of any sort of documentation or comments whatsoever. i know xp is supposed to make things crystal clear via refactoring, but after this project is handed over to the FT people and the consultants go away, i think it will be harder to understand w/o comments. (tho others have mentioned that you *can* write comments, tho they still hinted that refactoring is better. i simply believe that comments should *always* be wrtitten, regardless. ive worked w/ too much code to think that now, i the history of programming, xp can produce code so simple it doesnt need comments.) > some folks also don't like XP because code isn't 'theirs', it reduces > their perceived status and power in the project. Seen any of that? nah, the xp team is polite and very into what they are doing. they are enthusiastic about their work. matt .