Subj : Re: extreme programming (thoughts)
To   : comp.programming,comp.software.extreme-programming,comp.software-eng
From : matt
Date : Thu Jul 21 2005 07:28 pm

if you are not familar w/ ASP.NET, then you should definately check it
out before your next book revision, lest you suggest it sucks...

legacy ASP was a total pain in the ass, but ASP.NET is very similar to
doing windows vb/forms apps. the event model is nearly the same, its
server-side code, namespaces, class libraries compiled into .DLLs, etc.
in fact i believe they made it just like windows on purpose to make
traditional app developers more comfortable.

so much of the testing is simply done on the project's classes, which
are typically developed in MS Visual Studio 2003, the most popular IDE.
the business logic tests are written in a seperate project w/i the same
parent solution as the business logic itself. at that step they are not
gui-aware. later you write tests for that. datalayer classes are
likewise in a seperate project unrelated to the web/gui. in the real
world, these logic projects are compiled into stand-alone .DLLs,
dropped into a web app's /bin folder. the consuming web app then
references the assembly, and calls its methods. very little suckage,
and special only in that its way easier than before.

as for how easy it is to write, ask me next week. the 5 tests for my
data-retriving methods (consumed by my web control) take about 12
seconds, but im pretty sure thats including build time for the project.


matt

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