Subj : Re: extreme programming (thoughts) To : comp.programming From : matt Date : Thu Jul 21 2005 05:49 pm > Your project sounds like a mosh-pit in comparison. eh, not so. it is not crazy, and in fact is pretty quiet as most of the team is soft spoken. i believe you may be thinking of jen's guess at what it could be like. > Blah blah blah. I want to blame either Alan Greenspan or my dog, okay? ;-) ....just sayin: math, man. two salaries for one task. our project has thrown a lot of man hours into it. as continual layoffs at my company show, IT is watching their purse. we out outsource more & more. i dont see how mang could be excited about paying 2-4-1, unless they cut the cost elsewhere by hiring cheaper labor. (i know youve said xp is cheaper, but as i said, that is a contest point in the industry). > I can only apologies that you have not seen a "real" XP team in action. perhaps. i know that our group is newish at it (im on the proj now, but theyve been working xp for the 7 months ive been onsite), and w/o the original coaches, the lead is filling that role but is no expert. i would like to see another one. > Pleeeeeeze read this: printed. ill read it today! > Uh, different topic. Why no error-handling or logging? we do. but im just saying, from my non-xp experience, i havent had much of an issue w/ plain old error handling & logging. it's gotten the job done w/o major complaints for me. granted i dont work on powergrids or whatnot... matt .