Subj : Re: extreme programming (thoughts) To : comp.programming From : matt Date : Thu Jul 21 2005 03:59 pm jen, hah. yes, while it isnt part of an engineering or cost effectiveness arg (directly, anyway), i do find the lack of personal space a serious drag w/ xp. it is one step closer towards bringing us to Total Automaton Harmony (tm). you know, that euphoric place which all upper management and financials people seek out -- where they can jack us directly into the network, wire us w/ an Intravenous Nutrient Drip, feed us a Dynamic Requirements Newsfeed, and away we go, fingers a flurry........ you are right tho, IT is becomming less of a career and more of a service, like serving food in a cafeteria. at least for me. i mean look at the other major outsourced workfource path -- manual labor. ya know what everbody said when jobs went to china? "Go to college, get a degree!" now that we've done that guess whats happening again? and it will continue this way until as much of the workforce can be automated or offshored as possible. just the way it is. argh! back to reading some neal stephenson. grin. matt .