Subj : Re: bcc 5.02 command line v. ide
To   : borland.public.cpp.borlandcpp
From : JackRosenbloom
Date : Fri Dec 03 2004 11:27 am

I also recently starting using open watcom for some projects.  The 
compiler and debugger are great.  The IDE stinks.  I use a product 
called "Zeus for Windows", which is an amazing editor and IDE.  It was 
easy to provide complete integration with the compiler, debugger, and 
other tools I use.  Check it out.  It's only $35, an evaluation version 
is available, and support have been great.

If I could get Borland makefiles to work correctly, I would be using 
Zeus with the Borland command line compiler instead of the Borland IDE.

www.zeusedit.com


Jack


Sebastian Ledesma wrote:

> David:
> 
> I have Open Watcom 1.2, and four weeks ago I upgraded to Open Watcom 1.3.
> The IDE is no such thing. It's basically a project manager, when you double
> click to edit a file it will open a separate application
> (I'm not sure if it can be configured to select  the editor). In any case
> you have to press ALT+TAB several times to go from
> 'editing' to 'compiling' and viceversa. I didnt trid the debugger. I used a
> lot to make some specific 32 bit DOS applications.
> When I finished my work I switched back to BC :-).
> So, that's my opinion, the IDE it's not a real INTEGRATED Developement
> Enviroment. But the code Works, and the extenders
> are great. Perhaps the best solution it's to integrate the
> compiler/libraries in another Addon like Tools55 :-) (Watcom Addon for
> BC5.x! :-) ) or wait until release 1.x becomes a real IDE.
> 
> Saludos
> Sebastian
> 
> 
> 
> "David Morris"
> <DONTSPAMdlmorris-ATDONTSPAM-netwiz-com-au -@don't.use.this.bit> escribió en
> el mensaje news:41b010c0@newsgroups.borland.com...
> 
>>"
>>
>>Co-incidentally I had a look at (some screen shots) of RHIDE yesterday.
> 
> As a
> 
>>DOS application it looked great.  I would have loved it back in 1994.
> 
> Today,
> 
>>I really want a Windows IDE, that has a an editor that is fast and compact
> 
> with
> 
>>lots of different languages supported.   The Editor I want is close to
> 
> Crimson
> 
>>(http://www.crimsoneditor.com/).  But the IDE has not been invented yet.
> 
> PSPad
> 
>>(http://www.pspad.com/index_en.html )comes close - but  I think that the
> 
> SYN
> 
>>component just isn't as good as Crimson, and it doesn't give me the same
>>confidence.
>>
>>I liked the Watcom compiler because it is well supported by well known
> 
> (and
> 
>>presumably) good DMPI extenders.   Also, has anyone done any benchmarking
>>between DJGPP and Watcom?  Historically the Watcom compiler was known to
>>generate fast code.
>>
>>I could see a day when the same code base produces Borland 16bit DOS (and
> 
> that
> 
>>won't change),32 DOS bit Watcom?, and 32 bit Win with Visual C.
>>
>>There is an amazing number of good and even good free compilers out there.
>>
>>regards DM
>>
> 
> 
>

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