Subj : Re: A real beginer's C++ question To : borland.public.cpp.borlandcpp From : "Boba" Date : Tue Jul 08 2003 10:41 am A symbol does not have to be declared to be defined. (The original Q is about 'undefined symbol'.) As you have pointed out: "When a symbol is used that is not an inherent part of the language then it must be defined.", so I am just showing another way to please the compliler by #defining the symbol. Boba .