Subj : FreeBSD To : Russell Tiedt From : Charles Angelich Date : Fri Nov 30 2001 06:38 pm 123338874f5a unix Hello Russell - --8<--cut CA>> The people who preassemble computers would save you the CA>> time to return hardware that isn't working, yet you prefer CA>> to build your own computers? RT> That way I get a computer that does what I want like I want RT> it, not as some ignorant marketing type "thinks" I need, RT> and dictate "how" I should waste my time and energy, RT> earning a living or not. Basically I get the computer I RT> want, not the computer some other asshole thinks I should RT> have, niether does he have the privelege of "earning" any RT> of my hard earned cash. There are enough "Dummies" out RT> there tio support those types. I don't need my computer to RT> add to my frustrations in life, so I get off of my butt and RT> DO something about it. Here you can custom build by specifying parts and letting them put it together, burn it in, and test before you take it home. That way they can't say you damaged a part by installing it improperly etc. RT>>> Two: There are advantages to compiling your own --8<--cut CA>> This would seem to be a grabber for a guy who builds his CA>> own computer systems using parts, yet it seems it is not? RT> To put it differently I spec. my own systems. I do that but I let them be responsible for improper installation type problems which might develop. --8<--cut RT> Why have support for items that you will never ever run RT> wasting resouces, when you don't need them, things like RT> SCSI drivers, AppleTalk network support, ZipDisk support, RT> tape drive support, when you don't own and no intention of RT> ever owning such, as a byproduct you increase you systems RT> responsiveness and stability for very little effort, just RT> recompile your kernel, and you have a system even more RT> suited to the task at hand, unlike some people who throw in RT> everything, including the kitchen sink and trash recycler, RT> not to mention/forget the shoe polisher, and then wonder RT> why it crashes three times a day. I agree with all that you say on this. I feel much the same way. RT>>> Three: As for availability of source, if that bothers RT>>> you, download it and write it to CD-ROM, no hassle. CA>> Before there were CD's being made and sold with software CA>> the maker did not author there were `users groups' and CA>> clubs that would sell softare on disks at cost. Of course CA>> before the bloat they FIT on disks. ;-) RT> My first Linux, I downloaded from a BBS long distance +/- RT> 500 km's from my home location. No usergroups. :-( Well the first Linux release I found was only 900K. :-) CA>> Those groups seem to have vanished once the CD peddlers CA>> appeared. RT> Never has been shuch a group with 4-5 hours driving RT> distance of here, so I would not know. Here the user groups disks were being sold in computer stores to increase walk-in traffic. Usually for a few dollars ($2-3). > > , , > o/ Charles.Angelich \o , > <| |> __o/ > / > USA, MI < \ __\__ ___ * ATP/16bit 2.31 * .... DOS the Ghost in the Machine! http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost/ --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: COMM Port OS/2 juge.com 204.89.247.1 (281) 980-9671 (1:106/2000) .